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Re: Vincent Asaro

by TommyGambino » Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:12 am

I think it's more a case by case scenario tbh.

Either way, Fat Sammy should be more worried about his health, fat fuckers a walking heart attack.

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Re: Vincent Asaro

by East Bronx » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:45 pm

Tommy Cafaro is still as close to the Barney as he was thirty years ago. He would have loved the button. But he never got it because it would have raised too many eyebrows among the old timers. However, Tommy thrived as an associate for years after his father flipped. Then again, we're talking about the Westside. Elsewhere? Who the fuck knows?

Re: Vincent Asaro

by SonnyBlackstein » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:37 pm

Lupara wrote:
HairyKnuckles wrote:
Lupara wrote:
TommyGambino wrote:
SonnyBlackstein wrote:He won't be clipped in this day and age but prospects for advancement, even in that crew, are capped.
Don't be so sure. Plenty of guys who's fathers/son's ratted are doing fine.
I also don't see what a son's career in the mob has to do with the father being a snitch.
Genes. 40, 50 yeras ago they would have wacked the son if the father turned rat, even if the son was a stand up guy.
That's ridiculous. There is no such thing as a snitch gene. People snitch due to circumstances, and as we've seen, anybody can become a snitch.
Seriously?

Sit down a button from jersey or Staten Island and explain that the sins of the father aren't biological.

Honestly lupara, you're smarter than that.

And tommy. Give me a call when Sammy gets his stripes. You'll get the humblest apology you've ever seen.

Re: Vincent Asaro

by HairyKnuckles » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:42 pm

toto wrote:Can anybody list father-son, or brother-brother or even uncle-nephew murders because one of them co-operated?
I´m sure there are plenty of examples in Sicily. In the US Valachi-Siano comes to mind. But members back then did not sing publically that often. It´s a complete different tune nowadays where you´ve got former mobsters turned cooperators living in the open. It´s not the same Mafia anymore. I was talking about the Mafia, 40, 50 years ago.

Re: Vincent Asaro

by Pogo The Clown » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:41 pm

toto wrote:Can anybody list father-son, or brother-brother or even uncle-nephew murders because one of them co-operated?

Soldier Fiore “Fury” Siano was whacked after his unlce (Joe Valachi) flipped.


After Philly Associate Joe Salerno flipped they tried to kill his father (he survived a shooting). His father was a civilian though.


After Lucchese Capo Peter Chiodo flipped they tried to kill his sister (a civilian). She also survived the shooting. I think they also clipped his uncle. That may have been someone else though.


I'm sure there are more.


Pogo

Re: Vincent Asaro

by toto » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:32 pm

Can anybody list father-son, or brother-brother or even uncle-nephew murders because one of them co-operated?

Re: Vincent Asaro

by HairyKnuckles » Sun Nov 22, 2015 1:23 pm

Lupara wrote:
HairyKnuckles wrote:
Lupara wrote:
TommyGambino wrote:
SonnyBlackstein wrote:He won't be clipped in this day and age but prospects for advancement, even in that crew, are capped.
Don't be so sure. Plenty of guys who's fathers/son's ratted are doing fine.
I also don't see what a son's career in the mob has to do with the father being a snitch.
Genes. 40, 50 yeras ago they would have wacked the son if the father turned rat, even if the son was a stand up guy.
That's ridiculous. There is no such thing as a snitch gene. People snitch due to circumstances, and as we've seen, anybody can become a snitch.
There is no snitch gene of course Lup, but there are genes nevertheless. if somebody couldn´t cope with LE pressure, showing weakness by snitching/ratting/cooperating, chances were, in their minds, the son could also become a potential snitch. Biologically, a son is always closer to his father than anybody else in the mob.

Re: Vincent Asaro

by Lupara » Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:58 pm

HairyKnuckles wrote:
Lupara wrote:
TommyGambino wrote:
SonnyBlackstein wrote:He won't be clipped in this day and age but prospects for advancement, even in that crew, are capped.
Don't be so sure. Plenty of guys who's fathers/son's ratted are doing fine.
I also don't see what a son's career in the mob has to do with the father being a snitch.
Genes. 40, 50 yeras ago they would have wacked the son if the father turned rat, even if the son was a stand up guy.
That's ridiculous. There is no such thing as a snitch gene. People snitch due to circumstances, and as we've seen, anybody can become a snitch.

Re: Vincent Asaro

by TommyGambino » Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:46 am

SonnyBlackstein wrote:
HairyKnuckles wrote:
Lupara wrote:
TommyGambino wrote:
SonnyBlackstein wrote:He won't be clipped in this day and age but prospects for advancement, even in that crew, are capped.
Don't be so sure. Plenty of guys who's fathers/son's ratted are doing fine.
I also don't see what a son's career in the mob has to do with the father being a snitch.
Genes. 40, 50 yeras ago they would have wacked the son if the father turned rat, even if the son was a stand up guy.

This.

And again, despite the exceptions (Franzese) to think this guys rep and career prospects wont be hurt because his old man took the stand (for money no less) is naive.
To assume his prospects will be hurt in this day and age is equally naive.

Re: Vincent Asaro

by SonnyBlackstein » Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:14 pm

HairyKnuckles wrote:
Lupara wrote:
TommyGambino wrote:
SonnyBlackstein wrote:He won't be clipped in this day and age but prospects for advancement, even in that crew, are capped.
Don't be so sure. Plenty of guys who's fathers/son's ratted are doing fine.
I also don't see what a son's career in the mob has to do with the father being a snitch.
Genes. 40, 50 yeras ago they would have wacked the son if the father turned rat, even if the son was a stand up guy.

This.

And again, despite the exceptions (Franzese) to think this guys rep and career prospects wont be hurt because his old man took the stand (for money no less) is naive.

Re: Vincent Asaro

by HairyKnuckles » Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:41 pm

Lupara wrote:
TommyGambino wrote:
SonnyBlackstein wrote:He won't be clipped in this day and age but prospects for advancement, even in that crew, are capped.
Don't be so sure. Plenty of guys who's fathers/son's ratted are doing fine.
I also don't see what a son's career in the mob has to do with the father being a snitch.
Genes. 40, 50 yeras ago they would have wacked the son if the father turned rat, even if the son was a stand up guy.

Re: Vincent Asaro

by Lupara » Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:07 pm

TommyGambino wrote:
SonnyBlackstein wrote:He won't be clipped in this day and age but prospects for advancement, even in that crew, are capped.
Don't be so sure. Plenty of guys who's fathers/son's ratted are doing fine.
I also don't see what a son's career in the mob has to do with the father being a snitch.

Re: Vincent Asaro

by Pogo The Clown » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:15 am

He did say 'For the most part' in regards to the no more killings.


Pogo

Re: Vincent Asaro

by Cheech » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:14 am

He just wrote the "mob has a rule. It no longer lives bodies in the street" yet. In his latest column he suggests Madonna had Meldish killed. Smh.

Re: Vincent Asaro

by Garbageman » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:03 am

Camo wrote:
Garbageman wrote:Capeci's latest writeup about it reads like a disgruntled prosecutor wrote it. Lots of crying and sympathizing with the feds.

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Sounded more like everyone on these forums (including myself) to me, baffled by the verdict and the jury. Also he or whoever wrote that since some don't think he writes it anymore, had more reason to be baffled since he had already heard the testimony from the two very credible (IMO) subpoenaed witnesses who allegedly looked after Asaros money.

If anything i found it highly critical of the prosecutors by comparing it to Gottis 87 trial, must have missed all that fed-sympathizing.
I totally agree that Capeci didn't write this. It's definitely written by someone other than him, at this point.

Just to clarify, it seems to me that whoever wrote the article actually believed in the case the FBI made, but blames the prosecutors & a jury with "something wrong with it" for the not guilty verdict. Sounds like a disgruntled prosecutor crying "bad jury" to me.

He's sympathizing with the FBI by claiming the case was winnable in the first place. With all this supposed evidence they supplied that should've convinced any jury to convict. Oh well, win some lose some.

These guys brought a 40 year old case to trial. Because no one was ever really charged in Lufthansa. That's it. The entire fiasco comes off as desperate and headline seeking/promotion seeking behavior.

Now, if I'm thought of as being wrong here and others disagree, that's ok. This Asaro guy is a bad man, a lifetime criminal. My reasoning is based on personal experience and the fact that for every Asaro who is probably guilty but got lucky, there are thousands of others who aren't guilty and get fucked by these career seeking headline whores. So fuck em, they got screwed by their own filthy system... and I enjoyed watching.

I've seen these people go after 94 year olds because the guy beat their last case and it stung their asses. You can rest assured that these sourpusses will not forget and if Asaro continues breathing long enough, he will be back in court.

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