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Re: "Organized Retail Crime"

by West Coast1 » Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:47 pm

NJShore4Life wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:35 am
TommyNoto wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:45 am The Luchesse and Gambino NJ crews had a big theft ring in Home Depot type stores about 10 years ago or so
Yes they were switching bar codes of tools at the Lowe’s in Paterson, was an Andy Merola crew scheme.

-Dante
I tried to research Merola
I can't find much, I heard he went away for drugs way before he was a mafia guy
also I read he was with scarfo jr, makes no sense
sarfo was managing his book when he was away? then they had a money beef?
Merola was gambino? with scarfo jr who was hit by philly, but hidden by nj philly who was then protecred by nj lukes
sounds like a soap opera

Re: "Organized Retail Crime"

by West Coast1 » Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:08 am

Ivan wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:46 pm
NJShore4Life wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:35 am
TommyNoto wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:45 am The Luchesse and Gambino NJ crews had a big theft ring in Home Depot type stores about 10 years ago or so
Yes they were switching bar codes of tools at the Lowe’s in Paterson, was an Andy Merola crew scheme.

-Dante
Found it, thanks for the lead. Looks like he made over a hundred grand.

https://www.justice.gov/archive/usao/nj ... g%20PR.pdf
I have no real info on this, my friend told me that the Merola guy was busted and did time for drugs and never opened his mouth and after that he was portrayed as a mob guy by cops to make more busts
has anyone else heard of this?

Re: "Organized Retail Crime"

by UTC » Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:57 pm

Amen

Re: "Organized Retail Crime"

by Wiseguy » Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:58 am

Ivan wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:13 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:43 pm
UTC wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:47 pm I'd love to see these flash mobs machine gunned down as they leave the store.
+ 1,000
Believe me fellas I feel the same way but you can't even obstruct these people from stealing without getting into legal trouble.
That's understood. Not police or security guards. Just some good citizen, on a nearby rooftop, with an M60 and a few thousand rounds. :D

Re: "Organized Retail Crime"

by Ivan » Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:13 pm

Wiseguy wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:43 pm
UTC wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:47 pm I'd love to see these flash mobs machine gunned down as they leave the store.
+ 1,000
Believe me fellas I feel the same way but you can't even obstruct these people from stealing without getting into legal trouble.

Re: "Organized Retail Crime"

by Wiseguy » Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:43 pm

UTC wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:47 pm I'd love to see these flash mobs machine gunned down as they leave the store.
+ 1,000

Re: "Organized Retail Crime"

by Cheech » Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:57 pm

UTC wrote: Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:47 pm I'd love to see these flash mobs machine gunned down as they leave the store.
Lmao

Re: "Organized Retail Crime"

by UTC » Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:47 pm

I'd love to see these flash mobs machine gunned down as they leave the store.

Re: "Organized Retail Crime"

by West Coast1 » Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:52 pm

NJShore4Life wrote: Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:04 pm Nicky Scarfo Jr had a country club theft ring racket back in 2009 that got busted as well, that clown Todd Stark was always in Nicky Jr’s crew:

https://www.inquirer.com/philly/news/lo ... _ring.html

-Dante
thank you!
never saw this

Re: "Organized Retail Crime"

by West Coast1 » Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:49 pm

newera_212 wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:14 pm It kind of warms my heart a little, as sick as it sounds, to see a flash mob of 35 kids run into a Louis Vuitton or Chanel store and ransack the place. Most of these conglomerate companies who are contributing to the rapid deforestation and desertification of the planet, and these fashion labels who used forced scarcity to sell their bullshit at a 6000% markup - you couldn't pay me to feel bad for them. Fuck em. If local establishments, mom and pops, new small business owners, etc. are getting hit ... that's a different story... but these chains and global fashion brands that are ran by institutional investors? Fuck 'em.
fuck them yes
the problem is that kids these days haven't been schooled and hit everyone

Re: "Organized Retail Crime"

by West Coast1 » Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:46 pm

NJShore4Life wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:35 am
TommyNoto wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:45 am The Luchesse and Gambino NJ crews had a big theft ring in Home Depot type stores about 10 years ago or so
Yes they were switching bar codes of tools at the Lowe’s in Paterson, was an Andy Merola crew scheme.

-Dante
that's what shit bags are doing now in any city just google

Re: "Organized Retail Crime"

by Wiseguy » Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:07 pm

Ivan wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:59 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:57 pm
Ivan wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:47 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:52 pm But while we do see the mob involved in stolen goods from time to time, involvement in this form of it is pretty rare.
BTW Wiseguy would these rings be susceptible to prosecution under RICO? It seems like they would be but I've never seen any of them actually charged with it.
Yes, they are and we've seen prosecutors use RICO on some of these rings from time to time. A couple in Florida over the last few years. We occasionally see stolen goods among the charges in mob indictments. But I'd be a little surprised if they brought them against these recent flash mob, smash and grab thefts.
Oh wow thanks for the info. Sorry to pester you again and again about this but do you have any links with info about cases that got RICO'd? Much obliged.

These rings piss me off on all sorts of levels. Like I said I can't drive and I have a Target down the road that I heavily rely on as my walk-to "general store." If these assholes managed to shoplift into closing I'd get pretty stabby. The leaders of the rings are some of the most revolting people imaginable, just beyond fucking disgusting how they're blighting entire neighborhoods by doing this, and making prices go up when inflation is already bad, terrorizing minimum wage employees who have to deal with this, getting stores ordinary working people rely on closed, etc. etc.

One often overlooked aspect of this is that those "big box" retailers like Target, CVS, Walgreens, etc. are usually the anchor store for an entire shopping center (I.e., they're the main reason people will go to a shopping center, and the other stores around it are secondary), so if the anchor store gets closed because of this, the others go with it. So fewer options for local consumers, lots of jobs lost, more blighting of neighborhoods.

I think maybe the recent flash mobs could get RICO'd if they are being organized as part of a ring with a hierarchy of fences and ultimate bosses?

The rings that get charged under RICO operate differently than these smash and grab ones. It wouldn't surprise me if there's no hierarchy involved in the latter. I suspect it's more just people using social media to coordinate timing. And it's everyone for themselves and what they get is their's. The only reason they're coordinating to begin with is the large numbers facilitates them overwhelming a retailer and their security, as well as aiding their escape.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news4j ... utType=amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.abcact ... f_amp=true

Re: "Organized Retail Crime"

by Ivan » Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:59 pm

Wiseguy wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:57 pm
Ivan wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:47 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:52 pm But while we do see the mob involved in stolen goods from time to time, involvement in this form of it is pretty rare.
BTW Wiseguy would these rings be susceptible to prosecution under RICO? It seems like they would be but I've never seen any of them actually charged with it.
Yes, they are and we've seen prosecutors use RICO on some of these rings from time to time. A couple in Florida over the last few years. We occasionally see stolen goods among the charges in mob indictments. But I'd be a little surprised if they brought them against these recent flash mob, smash and grab thefts.
Oh wow thanks for the info. Sorry to pester you again and again about this but do you have any links with info about cases that got RICO'd? Much obliged.

These rings piss me off on all sorts of levels. Like I said I can't drive and I have a Target down the road that I heavily rely on as my walk-to "general store." If these assholes managed to shoplift into closing I'd get pretty stabby. The leaders of the rings are some of the most revolting people imaginable, just beyond fucking disgusting how they're blighting entire neighborhoods by doing this, and making prices go up when inflation is already bad, terrorizing minimum wage employees who have to deal with this, getting stores ordinary working people rely on closed, etc. etc.

One often overlooked aspect of this is that those "big box" retailers like Target, CVS, Walgreens, etc. are usually the anchor store for an entire shopping center (I.e., they're the main reason people will go to a shopping center, and the other stores around it are secondary), so if the anchor store gets closed because of this, the others go with it. So fewer options for local consumers, lots of jobs lost, more blighting of neighborhoods.

I think maybe the recent flash mobs could get RICO'd if they are being organized as part of a ring with a hierarchy of fences and ultimate bosses?

Re: "Organized Retail Crime"

by Wiseguy » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:57 pm

Ivan wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:47 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:52 pm But while we do see the mob involved in stolen goods from time to time, involvement in this form of it is pretty rare.
BTW Wiseguy would these rings be susceptible to prosecution under RICO? It seems like they would be but I've never seen any of them actually charged with it.
Yes, they are and we've seen prosecutors use RICO on some of these rings from time to time. A couple in Florida over the last few years. We occasionally see stolen goods among the charges in mob indictments. But I'd be a little surprised if they brought them against these recent flash mob, smash and grab thefts.

Re: "Organized Retail Crime"

by Ivan » Tue Dec 14, 2021 3:47 pm

Wiseguy wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:52 pm But while we do see the mob involved in stolen goods from time to time, involvement in this form of it is pretty rare.
BTW Wiseguy would these rings be susceptible to prosecution under RICO? It seems like they would be but I've never seen any of them actually charged with it.

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