by B. » Sat Oct 30, 2021 3:41 pm
Ed wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:51 pm
I always thought Joe Colombo's comment from 1968 (reported by Scarpa) about a "long time member in another family who in the past had brought great disrespect and shame to LCN" was recently discovered to be an FBI informer was a reference to Lombardozzi.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 0informant
The disrespect and shame would be primarily Lombardozzi's blood family attacking a federal agent and Lombardozzi sleeping with a member's daughter.
If Colombo's comment was directed towards Lombardozzi, I wonder if the FBI took active steps to protect Lombardozzi and throw off those suspicions. Obviously, Lombardozzi never got hit and prospered again in the 1970s, despite the rumours.
In addition, Colombo indicated his crime family might get the assignment to kill the unnamed informer. However, it seems unlikely given what we know about crime families insisting on murdering their own.
Good eye, I think you're right.
On one of the 1960s FBI recordings (it was either DeCavalcante or Bruno, offhand) they talked about the belief of a member CI in "Carlo's Family". I'm pretty sure it was DeCavalcante because they talk about how the FBI approached Carlo Gambino at his house and the agents named off his entire administration and many of his captains during this period. This was before Lombardozzi cooperated but it shows there was speculation about an informant in Gambino's Family (this earlier one was probably Santantonio in actuality).
What gets me about Frankie the Wop's comments is how resolute he was about Carmine's brother John being an informant, while he only speculated about Carmine and assumed guilt by association. Makes you wonder if something surfaced about John Lombardozzi and if so, were the brothers aware of each others' cooperation?
Carmine Lombardozzi stopped cooperating for a time and was reactivated in 1975, so maybe these rumors in 1972 contributed to his decision. He appears to have repaired his reputation, too, which is incredible given these rumors and the earlier issues with Muro's daughter. I tend to lean away from the "money solves everything" take on some of these things, but Lombardozzi's sheer wealth and earning ability could have been a factor for sure.
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I always thought Joe Colombo's comment from 1968 (reported by Scarpa) about a "long time member in another family who in the past had brought great disrespect and shame to LCN" was recently discovered to be an FBI informer was a reference to Lombardozzi.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=120387#relPageId=4&search=Colombo_AND%20informant
The disrespect and shame would be primarily Lombardozzi's blood family attacking a federal agent and Lombardozzi sleeping with a member's daughter.
If Colombo's comment was directed towards Lombardozzi, I wonder if the FBI took active steps to protect Lombardozzi and throw off those suspicions. Obviously, Lombardozzi never got hit and prospered again in the 1970s, despite the rumours.
In addition, Colombo indicated his crime family might get the assignment to kill the unnamed informer. However, it seems unlikely given what we know about crime families insisting on murdering their own.
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Good eye, I think you're right.
On one of the 1960s FBI recordings (it was either DeCavalcante or Bruno, offhand) they talked about the belief of a member CI in "Carlo's Family". I'm pretty sure it was DeCavalcante because they talk about how the FBI approached Carlo Gambino at his house and the agents named off his entire administration and many of his captains during this period. This was before Lombardozzi cooperated but it shows there was speculation about an informant in Gambino's Family (this earlier one was probably Santantonio in actuality).
What gets me about Frankie the Wop's comments is how resolute he was about Carmine's brother John being an informant, while he only speculated about Carmine and assumed guilt by association. Makes you wonder if something surfaced about John Lombardozzi and if so, were the brothers aware of each others' cooperation?
Carmine Lombardozzi stopped cooperating for a time and was reactivated in 1975, so maybe these rumors in 1972 contributed to his decision. He appears to have repaired his reputation, too, which is incredible given these rumors and the earlier issues with Muro's daughter. I tend to lean away from the "money solves everything" take on some of these things, but Lombardozzi's sheer wealth and earning ability could have been a factor for sure.