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Re: Sammy gravano making a fool of himself

by Cheech » Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:19 am

Thanks Bronx. Youve always been a gentleman here. Appreciate it

Re: Sammy gravano making a fool of himself

by bronx » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:23 pm

Cheech how you been, sam was very likable for a very long time, after paul died he changed , he started killing his "friends" or should i say '"brothers" early on great guy you would think, then the truths started to come out ,we all learned how evil he was....then ratted...

Re: Sammy gravano making a fool of himself

by bronx » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:36 pm

agree tony.

Re: Sammy gravano making a fool of himself

by Tonyd621 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:17 pm

Pmac2 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:55 pm Interesting hes taking credit for saving jackie nose from a murdee trial for fred weiss hit. He says the da asked him if jackie had any involment sammy says he didnt. And jackie might have been on the shelf after the 3yr bid
Jackie was a brokster that's why. If Jackie had money sammy would have him clipped. Sammy and his businessmen acumen. Is about as accurate as James Caan being Italian

Re: Sammy gravano making a fool of himself

by Cheech » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:59 am

@Eld interesting point. The politics of it all is the draw for me to the mob.

Re: Sammy gravano making a fool of himself

by Cheech » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:59 am

bronx wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:53 pm supersammy is bending history again?
When you were in ny what was sammy rep back then. Likeable guy? An asshole?

Re: Sammy gravano making a fool of himself

by Eld » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:28 am

Chris Christie wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:12 am
DiLeonardo discussed this same story at trial- Joe Watts went to the restaurant and met up with DiLeonardo, Fat Dom and Jack D'Amico (who was present) when the order was given. You can read the testimony here- http://mafiahistory.us/nw-dileop02.html
Q. And this prolific murderer, Joe Watts, what did he ask from you?
A. I was in a club with Fat Downs Club in Staten Island with Jackie and the rest of our crew. Joe Watts came and asked for Jackie, and Dom, and myself to step outside; he had something to tell us. And then he proceeded to tell us that, coming from the boss, John, we had to do a piece of work.
This is important because DiLeonardo would know enough about the politics not to tell his capo if he had been told not to. That would have landed him in hot water as well as D'Amico. Foppiano and another guy even testified to this and all three men have the story story which runs counter to Gravano.

Minor detail but true history is true history.
Interesting find. Given this it would be Watts that brought D'Amico in on the Weiss murder conspiracy.

With the possibility that Watts was an FBI informant at the time (1988-1989) it would make sense to bring D'Amico in and that Gravano (if he's telling the thruth) don't know that it was Watts and not DiLeonardo.

Re: Sammy gravano making a fool of himself

by West Coast1 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:02 pm

West Coast1 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:58 pm
RJDigby wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:43 pm The thing I find comical about these guys is, all the people kissing their asses. I guess the stories can be fascinating in a sense that this sort of organized criminality can exist in modern society, but anybody with half a brain knows that politics is the path to pursue if you have this sort of personality.

Cmon, these are awful people that have no qualms about preying on the straight guy, driving up the prices of everything for people not "in the life", etc.

But in all honesty, who's worse? The guys that pull this shit their whole life till they get caught and then spend the rest of their lives in prison? Or the guys that pull this shit their whole life till they get caught, then throw anyone they can under the bus (friends, family) to get out from under any punishment they deserve for their crimes?

The fact that these crooks have such a large fan base says a lot about what's wrong with our society today.
this is the current "chain supply bs"
great post
I grew up in nj
i guess im just used to geting raped on prices
now im waking up and im in more support of price increases by normal people and more against the price hacks by gov
im offically going anti

Re: Sammy gravano making a fool of himself

by West Coast1 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:58 pm

RJDigby wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:43 pm The thing I find comical about these guys is, all the people kissing their asses. I guess the stories can be fascinating in a sense that this sort of organized criminality can exist in modern society, but anybody with half a brain knows that politics is the path to pursue if you have this sort of personality.

Cmon, these are awful people that have no qualms about preying on the straight guy, driving up the prices of everything for people not "in the life", etc.

But in all honesty, who's worse? The guys that pull this shit their whole life till they get caught and then spend the rest of their lives in prison? Or the guys that pull this shit their whole life till they get caught, then throw anyone they can under the bus (friends, family) to get out from under any punishment they deserve for their crimes?

The fact that these crooks have such a large fan base says a lot about what's wrong with our society today.
this is the current "chain supply bs"
great post

Re: Sammy gravano making a fool of himself

by bronx » Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:53 pm

supersammy is bending history again?

Re: Sammy gravano making a fool of himself

by Angelo Santino » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:12 am

I watched his Jackie video and I don't follow the modern stuff but something did jump out at me- Gravano claims DiLeonardo was ordered to do the hit as well as being instructed not to tell D'amico (his capodecina) about it. Starts at 4 mins into the video.

DiLeonardo discussed this same story at trial- Joe Watts went to the restaurant and met up with DiLeonardo, Fat Dom and Jack D'Amico (who was present) when the order was given. You can read the testimony here- http://mafiahistory.us/nw-dileop02.html
Q. And this prolific murderer, Joe Watts, what did he ask from you?
A. I was in a club with Fat Downs Club in Staten Island with Jackie and the rest of our crew. Joe Watts came and asked for Jackie, and Dom, and myself to step outside; he had something to tell us. And then he proceeded to tell us that, coming from the boss, John, we had to do a piece of work.
This is important because DiLeonardo would know enough about the politics not to tell his capo if he had been told not to. That would have landed him in hot water as well as D'Amico. Foppiano and another guy even testified to this and all three men have the story story which runs counter to Gravano.

Minor detail but true history is true history.

Re: Sammy gravano making a fool of himself

by bronx » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:51 am

he was i guess around may or june of 86

Re: Sammy gravano making a fool of himself

by B. » Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:09 pm

Browniety86 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:05 pm
Pmac2 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:58 pm Was jackie a capo before gotti killed big paul or did gotti make him one. This would contridict something sammy says in the video
Did Jackie come up under Olympio Garafalo?
He was a Manhattan member of the crew like Garofalo. Garofalo died in 1986 so D'Amico became official after Castellano was killed.

Re: Sammy gravano making a fool of himself

by Browniety86 » Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:05 pm

Pmac2 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:58 pm Was jackie a capo before gotti killed big paul or did gotti make him one. This would contridict something sammy says in the video
Did Jackie come up under Olympio Garafalo?

Re: Sammy gravano making a fool of himself

by bronx » Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:01 pm

supersammy strikes again!

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