THE BLACK HAND FORUM

Amershire_Ed wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:03 pm Bonanno literally wrote a freaking book, the 20th century version of a blog/podcast, and no one touched him. There’s lots of evidence out there that the mob isn’t what it once was....failing to kill MF for not correcting someone in an interview who referred to him as a boss *is not one of them*.

Dave65827 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:28 am

Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:24 am

elasticman wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:12 am
There's no doubt the mob is an absolute shell of its former self. But no, the reason guys can do these podcasts is because the mob is a business, and it makes no business sense to prevent Michael Franzese from doing a podcast.

lol. Yeah, the mob would have been totally cool with people doing radio shows back in the 80's and talking about their life. Franzese discusses the families by name, plenty of members by name. He'd disappear within days if he tried this in the 80's. He knows it's safe now.

Well there wasn’t Mass surveillance, intense strict laws or massive advancements in technology back then. The mob is a shell of its former self but it doesn’t make sense to stop Franzese the goal is to make money not kill some rat from the 80s

What they gonna kill him and get life and flip right after? It’s a different world society is safer

Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:24 am

elasticman wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:12 am
There's no doubt the mob is an absolute shell of its former self. But no, the reason guys can do these podcasts is because the mob is a business, and it makes no business sense to prevent Michael Franzese from doing a podcast.

lol. Yeah, the mob would have been totally cool with people doing radio shows back in the 80's and talking about their life. Franzese discusses the families by name, plenty of members by name. He'd disappear within days if he tried this in the 80's. He knows it's safe now.

elasticman wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:12 am
There's no doubt the mob is an absolute shell of its former self. But no, the reason guys can do these podcasts is because the mob is a business, and it makes no business sense to prevent Michael Franzese from doing a podcast.

Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:00 am

elasticman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:33 pm

I apologize but I have to laugh at this comic book view of the mob, wherein they should be pulling all stops to whack Franzese for misusing lingo in internet podcasts, a guy who isn't stopping one dollar from being made and isn't helping to put one guy in prison.

If the mob was as dumb as you think they should be they would have been defunct decades ago!

I think you missed my point entirely. The reason guys can do these podcasts is because the mob is a shell of its former self anymore.

elasticman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:33 pm

I apologize but I have to laugh at this comic book view of the mob, wherein they should be pulling all stops to whack Franzese for misusing lingo in internet podcasts, a guy who isn't stopping one dollar from being made and isn't helping to put one guy in prison.

If the mob was as dumb as you think they should be they would have been defunct decades ago!

TommyGambino wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 11:16 am

CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:44 am

TommyGambino wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:31 pm How can you 'not or get the Franzese hate' he's a fraud, dunno how anyone can like him tbh

Forgive me, but that strikes as an emotional response, and why the fuck would anyone FEEL anything that strongly about the guy just baffles me.

He wasnt a wanton killer, didnt rip off regular people, didnt push drugs, didnt ruin any neighborhoods. I read hes trying to start a nationwide pizza chain. He has real business acumen from what I can see. I mean, if he ratted on someone you know....ok.

Yall are too naive, all that Church stuff is just image makeover for him. Its spin, to satisfy the media and cops. Dudes a born hustler, that doesnt stop cause he quit the streets. Stop treating the guy like hes an ACTUAL Reverend or whatever, hes a Christian in Armani, lol. I'll never forget visiting a friend of mines home in high school. Huge place, I'm like, " Bro, yall slanging that good?". He said, " Nah, slinging that God.."
They are fuckin hustlers, this is facts.

It's just odd to me. I know hes a rat, but yall watch every rat channel anyway. And hes about the most classy and successful of all the rats. Arrilotta had a lot on the ball, but lower ranked and a lesser earner. Pennisi didnt have the rank or rackets, and really was embroiled in a lot of petty shit. Franzese has a kind of polish that I think will allow him to transition away from exclusively discussing crime. You see this as he expands his audience, interviewing an Ed O'Neal.


Understand guys, I've never felt even the slightest urge to watch Franzeses channel ONCE. Like..... for what? I read the book..... Same with Sammy......

An emotional response? 99% of what comes out of his mouth is lies, that's the issue. Don't dislike him because he ratted, I couldn't care less, I just can't see what's likeable about him. I don't watch all the rats videos like you say, probably watched a handful combined. It's the same with all of them, I gave that Jimmy Calandria one a go the other day and he was saying he pushed and threatened to kill gene gptti in jail lol, turned it straight off.

Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:46 am The fact that he lets interviewers refer to him as a "boss" tells you everything. Gianni Russo calls himself a boss as well. This is insane. This is probably all the proof you need that the mob isn't what it used to be. Maybe it's just Sicilians now running everything super low key. The old Italian-American mob empire as we knew it must be just about defunct. If clowns like this can go around calling themselves bosses.

Amershire_Ed wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 4:47 pm Why stop there? Why not assume he’s lying about being a made guy? Why not assume he’s lying about growing up in Brooklyn?

Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 2:55 pm

nizarsoccer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:27 pm


What does he lie about other than his convoluted definition of informant?

He allows interviewers to refer to him as a boss. Is that not at a minimum perpetuating a lie?