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by **furiofromnaples** » Wed Nov 03, 2021 12:08 pm

Spilotro was one of the suspects.

Within days of Giancana's murder, Michael J. Corbitt, the police chief of Willow Springs, Illinois, and a mobster associate, was told by Chicago Outfit's capo Salvatore Bastone that "Sam sure loved that little guy in Oak Park... Tony Spilotro. Yeah, he was fuckin' crazy about him. Sam put Tony on the fuckin' map, thought he was gonna be a big fuckin' man someday. Did you know that after Marshall Caifano got out of Vegas, it was Sam who wanted Tony Spilotro out there? Even lately, with all the problems with the skim and all, Sam always stood behind the guy. Tony was over to Sam's house all the time. He lived right by there. Did you know Tony even figured out a way where he could get in through the back of Sam's place without anybody seeing him? He'd go through other people's yards, go over fences, all sorts of shit".When Corbitt asked for the reason for the murder, Bastone quipped, "There's never just one reason for shit like what happened to Sam. There's a million of 'em. Let's just say that Sam should've remembered what happened to Bugsy Siegel".

by **cbands** » Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:54 am

furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:28 am Anthony Spilotro murders

1962 Jimmy Miraglia and Billy McCarthy
September 28, 1970: Mario Sprovieri
December 15, 1971: Henry LaKey
April 14, 1973: Sam DeStefano
June 23, 1973: William Klim (NV)
May 12, 1975: Marty Buccieri (NV)
November 10, 1975: Tamara Rand (CA)

Any infos on killing between 1975 and 1986?

Isn't Spilotro suspected in the Giancana hit?

by **cbands** » Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:49 am

furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:28 am Anthony Spilotro murders

1962 Jimmy Miraglia and Billy McCarthy
September 28, 1970: Mario Sprovieri
December 15, 1971: Henry LaKey
April 14, 1973: Sam DeStefano
June 23, 1973: William Klim (NV)
May 12, 1975: Marty Buccieri (NV)
November 10, 1975: Tamara Rand (CA)

Any infos on killing between 1975 and 1986?

Isn't Spilotro suspected in the Giancana hit?

by **furiofromnaples** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:16 am

davidf1989 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:32 pm
furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:14 am
davidf1989 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:12 pm I agree with you Furio that both Flemmi and his brother the Bear were serial killers who should not have been used as informants by the FBI
Unfortunaly after Hoover death in 1972,the FBI had old infos,few high ranking informers they had to prove to the public opinion that was seriously engaging against the American mafia. and given that the results justify the means to obtain them. Connolly was seen as a hero despite his colleagues called him Cannolli because acted more like a mobster that a fbi agent.
I thought that Paul Rico was the FBI agent who recruited Flemmi to be an informant Furio.

yes I know it,I read the book Black Mass and Connolly recruited Bulger because both of them was from South Boston,I'm referring on connolly attitudes: expensive dresses, gold necklaces and pinky ring.

by **davidf1989** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:32 pm

furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:14 am
davidf1989 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:12 pm I agree with you Furio that both Flemmi and his brother the Bear were serial killers who should not have been used as informants by the FBI
Unfortunaly after Hoover death in 1972,the FBI had old infos,few high ranking informers they had to prove to the public opinion that was seriously engaging against the American mafia. and given that the results justify the means to obtain them. Connolly was seen as a hero despite his colleagues called him Cannolli because acted more like a mobster that a fbi agent.

I thought that Paul Rico was the FBI agent who recruited Flemmi to be an informant Furio.

by **richard_belding** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 7:23 am

Would be curious to know the ballpark between Mimi Scialo and Charles Panarella collectively. Charles Gagliodotto would be another one.

by **furiofromnaples** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:14 am

davidf1989 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:12 pm I agree with you Furio that both Flemmi and his brother the Bear were serial killers who should not have been used as informants by the FBI

Unfortunaly after Hoover death in 1972,the FBI had old infos,few high ranking informers they had to prove to the public opinion that was seriously engaging against the American mafia. and given that the results justify the means to obtain them. Connolly was seen as a hero despite his colleagues called him Cannolli because acted more like a mobster that a fbi agent.

by **davidf1989** » Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:12 pm

I agree with you Furio that both Flemmi and his brother the Bear were serial killers who should not have been used as informants by the FBI

by **furiofromnaples** » Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:59 am

davidf1989 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:45 pm
furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:47 am
davidf1989 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:00 am Mark Rossetti and his boss Frank Salemme from the Boston LCN as the article below suggests that they were involved in a lot of murders such as Donati's Devincent to name a few.

https://gangsterreport.com/gr-sources-c ... s-role-in/
http://archive.boston.com/news/local/ma ... keteering/
https://gangsterreport.com/the-open-cas ... nder-belt/
https://archive.boston.com/news/package ... alemme.htm

1967 murders

Flemmi and Salemme killed the bookie Edward “Wimpy” Bennett on Jan. 18,
Walter Bennett on April 10,and William Bennett was shot to death and pushed out of a car in Dorchester on Dec. 23, 1967.Richard Grasso

Tommy Timmins
Pete Poulos
Robert (Bobby D) Donati
Rocco Scali
Barry Lazzarini
Vinnie Arcieri
Richard (Vinnie the Pig) DeVincent

At least 11 men personally killed,not bad.
Thanks for your extra facts Furio and Rossetti was an informant like Flemmi who also killed a lot of people.

I wonder why Rossetti and Salemme went after Donati and if it had anything do with Gardner art heist?

davidf1989 Flemmi at least 15 men and dozen of underage girls that turned into heroin addicts and raped for years, who knows how many of them died of an overdose or committed suicide.

by **davidf1989** » Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:45 pm

furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:47 am
davidf1989 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:00 am Mark Rossetti and his boss Frank Salemme from the Boston LCN as the article below suggests that they were involved in a lot of murders such as Donati's Devincent to name a few.

https://gangsterreport.com/gr-sources-c ... s-role-in/
http://archive.boston.com/news/local/ma ... keteering/
https://gangsterreport.com/the-open-cas ... nder-belt/
https://archive.boston.com/news/package ... alemme.htm

1967 murders

Flemmi and Salemme killed the bookie Edward “Wimpy” Bennett on Jan. 18,
Walter Bennett on April 10,and William Bennett was shot to death and pushed out of a car in Dorchester on Dec. 23, 1967.Richard Grasso

Tommy Timmins
Pete Poulos
Robert (Bobby D) Donati
Rocco Scali
Barry Lazzarini
Vinnie Arcieri
Richard (Vinnie the Pig) DeVincent

At least 11 men personally killed,not bad.

Thanks for your extra facts Furio and Rossetti was an informant like Flemmi who also killed a lot of people.

I wonder why Rossetti and Salemme went after Donati and if it had anything do with Gardner art heist?

by **furiofromnaples** » Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:47 am

davidf1989 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:00 am Mark Rossetti and his boss Frank Salemme from the Boston LCN as the article below suggests that they were involved in a lot of murders such as Donati's Devincent to name a few.

https://gangsterreport.com/gr-sources-c ... s-role-in/

http://archive.boston.com/news/local/ma ... keteering/
https://gangsterreport.com/the-open-cas ... nder-belt/
https://archive.boston.com/news/package ... alemme.htm

1967 murders

Flemmi and Salemme killed the bookie Edward “Wimpy” Bennett on Jan. 18,
Walter Bennett on April 10,and William Bennett was shot to death and pushed out of a car in Dorchester on Dec. 23, 1967.Richard Grasso

Tommy Timmins
Pete Poulos
Robert (Bobby D) Donati
Rocco Scali
Barry Lazzarini
Vinnie Arcieri
Richard (Vinnie the Pig) DeVincent

At least 11 men personally killed,not bad.

by **furiofromnaples** » Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:28 am

desertdog wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:02 am Wow..Only 38 for DeMeo?...Maybe he wasn't such a bad guy after all...

He died in the prime of his life.

by **desertdog** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:02 am

Wow..Only 38 for DeMeo?...Maybe he wasn't such a bad guy after all...

by **davidf1989** » Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:00 am

Mark Rossetti and his boss Frank Salemme from the Boston LCN as the article below suggests that they were involved in a lot of murders such as Donati's Devincent to name a few.

https://gangsterreport.com/gr-sources-c ... s-role-in/

by **furiofromnaples** » Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:28 am

Anthony Spilotro murders

1962 Jimmy Miraglia and Billy McCarthy
September 28, 1970: Mario Sprovieri
December 15, 1971: Henry LaKey
April 14, 1973: Sam DeStefano
June 23, 1973: William Klim (NV)
May 12, 1975: Marty Buccieri (NV)
November 10, 1975: Tamara Rand (CA)

Any infos on killing between 1975 and 1986?

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