THE BLACK HAND FORUM

by **JohnnyS** » Thu May 27, 2021 4:27 pm

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 1:56 pm
Browniety86 wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 10:28 am It baffles me if Mikey Mancuso is in a position of power and not a lightning rod for the real power...didnt Dom Cicale say everytime work needed to be done Nose would think of a reason to get out of it...I think he was in on the George from Canada hit but Patty DeFilippo was the shooter. Or am I thinking of the Pizzolo hit he farmed off to Ace Aiello?
I think Cicale is full of shit and has something against Mikey Nose. Mike participated/ conspired in both the Sciascia hit and the Pizzolo hit. In the Sciascia hit, Mancuso reportedly drove the crash car and acted as a backup shooter as well. Say what you want to say about him, but Mikey Nose is a very feared, capable guy.

Cicale had issues with Mancuso before flipping.

by **slimshady_007** » Thu May 27, 2021 1:56 pm

Browniety86 wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 10:28 am It baffles me if Mikey Mancuso is in a position of power and not a lightning rod for the real power...didnt Dom Cicale say everytime work needed to be done Nose would think of a reason to get out of it...I think he was in on the George from Canada hit but Patty DeFilippo was the shooter. Or am I thinking of the Pizzolo hit he farmed off to Ace Aiello?

I think Cicale is full of shit and has something against Mikey Nose. Mike participated/ conspired in both the Sciascia hit and the Pizzolo hit. In the Sciascia hit, Mancuso reportedly drove the crash car and acted as a backup shooter as well. Say what you want to say about him, but Mikey Nose is a very feared, capable guy.

by **Browniety86** » Thu May 27, 2021 10:28 am

It baffles me if Mikey Mancuso is in a position of power and not a lightning rod for the real power...didnt Dom Cicale say everytime work needed to be done Nose would think of a reason to get out of it...I think he was in on the George from Canada hit but Patty DeFilippo was the shooter. Or am I thinking of the Pizzolo hit he farmed off to Ace Aiello?

by **Browniety86** » Thu May 27, 2021 6:54 am

Will Johnny Joe Sr have an admin position?

by **johnny_scootch** » Thu May 27, 2021 4:23 am

jimmy_beans8 wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 9:14 pm That Shelved $$$ belongs to the BORGOTA once discovered.......smart boss would have HIS OWN PPL movin in on it.........SHELVED S LOSE THAT LUXURY................My opinion

That's where you get the friction. Mancuso shelved these guys and simultaneously has to assign other soldiers/captains (usually guys close to him) to take over their action. It's mafia style wealth redistribution and it doesn't always go over well if the guys who's wealth is being redistributed are still alive and/or strong enough to defend themselves. The guys he shelved were powerhouses and vey well liked, IMO Mancuso shelved these guys to shame them and teach them a lesson I wouldn't be surprised if all or most of them have already been reinstated.

It's a lot knowledge and connections to give up I'd put them all back as soldiers in the crew of my most loyal captain.

by **jimmy_beans8** » Wed May 26, 2021 9:14 pm

That Shelved $$$ belongs to the BORGOTA once discovered.......smart boss would have HIS OWN PPL movin in on it.........SHELVED S LOSE THAT LUXURY................My opinion

by **Dave65827** » Wed May 26, 2021 8:01 pm

The bonnanos always seem to have something going on compared to the other families. Seems like every 3 years an administration gets busted and every year another guy flips and brings down a crew.

Interesting family constantly in chaos never seems to catch a break

by **TallGuy19** » Wed May 26, 2021 7:28 pm

elasticman wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 1:16 pm
TallGuy19 wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 9:22 am If you ask me, these guys are lucky they got shelved. They're millionaires who are now free to enjoy their money. Plus, if they get hit with RICO indictments in the future, they can legitimately claim they're no longer part of the organization.
Hmm hard to say but I sincerely doubt all these shelved guys are millionaires who can live off the money they've already made, especially considering the lifestyle.

Maybe not all of them, but I remember someone saying that Porky Zancocchio and the other guys who were shelved after the trial were huge earners.

by **slimshady_007** » Wed May 26, 2021 4:34 pm

TallGuy19 wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 9:22 am If you ask me, these guys are lucky they got shelved. They're millionaires who are now free to enjoy their money. Plus, if they get hit with RICO indictments in the future, they can legitimately claim they're no longer part of the organization.

Great point. Joe C and the other shelved Bonannos should take Mikey Nose’s order as a blessing.

by **elasticman** » Wed May 26, 2021 1:16 pm

TallGuy19 wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 9:22 am If you ask me, these guys are lucky they got shelved. They're millionaires who are now free to enjoy their money. Plus, if they get hit with RICO indictments in the future, they can legitimately claim they're no longer part of the organization.

Hmm hard to say but I sincerely doubt all these shelved guys are millionaires who can live off the money they've already made, especially considering the lifestyle.

by **TallGuy19** » Wed May 26, 2021 9:22 am

If you ask me, these guys are lucky they got shelved. They're millionaires who are now free to enjoy their money. Plus, if they get hit with RICO indictments in the future, they can legitimately claim they're no longer part of the organization.

by **JeremyTheJew** » Tue May 25, 2021 1:12 pm

stubbs wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:13 am
JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:48 am "shelved" members in Mancuso era

-Simone Esposito
-Johnny joe spirito (if someone can go over this again thatd be cool.... He claimed he was boss??)
-Cammarano jnr
-john zammuto or something close??

-im forgetting the other zip capos who got shelved after the trial....
Vito Grimaldi too I think

Yes. That was supposed to be the zip Capo.

by **JohnnyS** » Tue May 25, 2021 9:17 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:48 am "shelved" members in Mancuso era

-Simone Esposito
-Johnny joe spirito (if someone can go over this again thatd be cool.... He claimed he was boss??)
-Cammarano jnr
-john zammuto or something close??

-im forgetting the other zip capos who got shelved after the trial....

We dont know if Mancuso left Spirito jr and Esposito on the shelf. They were shelved by Joe C. Mancuso shelved Cammarano jr, John Zancocchio, Vito Grimaldi and Joseph Grimaldi after the trial. Probably Dino Cammarano Joe C's younger brother too but he wasnt mentioned by Capeci.

by **stubbs** » Tue May 25, 2021 9:13 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:48 am "shelved" members in Mancuso era

-Simone Esposito
-Johnny joe spirito (if someone can go over this again thatd be cool.... He claimed he was boss??)
-Cammarano jnr
-john zammuto or something close??

-im forgetting the other zip capos who got shelved after the trial....

Vito Grimaldi too I think

by **Tonyd621** » Tue May 25, 2021 9:11 am

JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 8:48 am "shelved" members in Mancuso era

-Simone Esposito
-Johnny joe spirito (if someone can go over this again thatd be cool.... He claimed he was boss??)
-Cammarano jnr
-john zammuto or something close??

-im forgetting the other zip capos who got shelved after the trial....

The guy that Simone Esposito was charged with conspiracy to commit murder, who was it?

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