Current Bonanno situation??

[JohnnyS]

Didn't it come out that Cammarano was lending out money to members, and didn't make them pay the interest? I think JD posted something like that in his blog. No wonder they wanted him to be the boss.

Yep and Simone Esposito was put on the shelf for stealing from it.

[JeremyTheJew]

Cammarano jr is lucky,40 years go Galante was killed for what he tried to do. Now shelve someone is the new whack him.

I don't think Mancuso would have been able to hit Cammarano jnr.

If he actually tried to clip him (and for all we know he did try....) I think there would have been a way bigger ordeal made from all this.

[JeremyTheJew]

So.... In 5 last years.... They had 5(??) Capos (all influential it looks like too...) Shelved....

[JeremyTheJew]

"shelved" members in Mancuso era

-Simone Esposito
-Johnny joe spirito (if someone can go over this again thatd be cool.... He claimed he was boss??)
-Cammarano jnr
-john zammuto or something close??

-im forgetting the other zip capos who got shelved after the trial....

[Tonyd621]

"shelved" members in Mancuso era

-Simone Esposito
-Johnny joe spirito (if someone can go over this again thatd be cool.... He claimed he was boss??)
-Cammarano jnr
-john zammuto or something close??

-im forgetting the other zip capos who got shelved after the trial....

The guy that Simone Esposito was charged with conspiracy to commit murder, who was it?

[stubbs]

"shelved" members in Mancuso era

-Simone Esposito
-Johnny joe spirito (if someone can go over this again thatd be cool.... He claimed he was boss??)
-Cammarano jnr
-john zammuto or something close??

-im forgetting the other zip capos who got shelved after the trial....

Vito Grimaldi too I think

[JohnnyS]

"shelved" members in Mancuso era

-Simone Esposito
-Johnny joe spirito (if someone can go over this again thatd be cool.... He claimed he was boss??)
-Cammarano jnr
-john zammuto or something close??

-im forgetting the other zip capos who got shelved after the trial....

We dont know if Mancuso left Spirito jr and Esposito on the shelf. They were shelved by Joe C. Mancuso shelved Cammarano jr, John Zancocchio, Vito Grimaldi and Joseph Grimaldi after the trial. Probably Dino Cammarano Joe C's younger brother too but he wasnt mentioned by Capeci.

[JeremyTheJew]

"shelved" members in Mancuso era

-Simone Esposito
-Johnny joe spirito (if someone can go over this again thatd be cool.... He claimed he was boss??)
-Cammarano jnr
-john zammuto or something close??

-im forgetting the other zip capos who got shelved after the trial....

Vito Grimaldi too I think

Yes. That was supposed to be the zip Capo.

[TallGuy19]

If you ask me, these guys are lucky they got shelved. They're millionaires who are now free to enjoy their money. Plus, if they get hit with RICO indictments in the future, they can legitimately claim they're no longer part of the organization.

[elasticman]

If you ask me, these guys are lucky they got shelved. They're millionaires who are now free to enjoy their money. Plus, if they get hit with RICO indictments in the future, they can legitimately claim they're no longer part of the organization.

Hmm hard to say but I sincerely doubt all these shelved guys are millionaires who can live off the money they've already made, especially considering the lifestyle.

[slimshady_007]

If you ask me, these guys are lucky they got shelved. They're millionaires who are now free to enjoy their money. Plus, if they get hit with RICO indictments in the future, they can legitimately claim they're no longer part of the organization.

Great point. Joe C and the other shelved Bonannos should take Mikey Nose’s order as a blessing.

[TallGuy19]

If you ask me, these guys are lucky they got shelved. They're millionaires who are now free to enjoy their money. Plus, if they get hit with RICO indictments in the future, they can legitimately claim they're no longer part of the organization.

Hmm hard to say but I sincerely doubt all these shelved guys are millionaires who can live off the money they've already made, especially considering the lifestyle.

Maybe not all of them, but I remember someone saying that Porky Zancocchio and the other guys who were shelved after the trial were huge earners.

[Dave65827]

The bonnanos always seem to have something going on compared to the other families. Seems like every 3 years an administration gets busted and every year another guy flips and brings down a crew.

Interesting family constantly in chaos never seems to catch a break

[jimmy_beans8]

That Shelved $$$ belongs to the BORGOTA once discovered.......smart boss would have HIS OWN PPL movin in on it.........SHELVED S LOSE THAT LUXURY................My opinion

[johnny_scootch]

That Shelved $$$ belongs to the BORGOTA once discovered.......smart boss would have HIS OWN PPL movin in on it.........SHELVED S LOSE THAT LUXURY................My opinion

That's where you get the friction. Mancuso shelved these guys and simultaneously has to assign other soldiers/captains (usually guys close to him) to take over their action. It's mafia style wealth redistribution and it doesn't always go over well if the guys who's wealth is being redistributed are still alive and/or strong enough to defend themselves. The guys he shelved were powerhouses and vey well liked, IMO Mancuso shelved these guys to shame them and teach them a lesson I wouldn't be surprised if all or most of them have already been reinstated.

It's a lot knowledge and connections to give up I'd put them all back as soldiers in the crew of my most loyal captain.