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Re: 40 years ago today

by thekiduknow » Fri May 07, 2021 6:04 am

I believe Mauro was in Sonny Red’s crew around that time so yeah, I think that’s what the poster was referring to, but survived is a strong word to use if he had no involvement.

Re: 40 years ago today

by chin_gigante » Fri May 07, 2021 2:30 am

thekiduknow wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 10:05 am
Manhattan_ wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 9:42 am
chin_gigante wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 3:11 am
Manhattan_ wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:15 am Russell Mauro ? His name always pops up as the actual murder of Carmine Galante.
To the best of my knowledge Mauro's name hasn't come up in connection to the three captains
Who said that?
It looks like just a comment from GangsterBB. Also "survived" is pretty vague. Could just be referring to how he lived through the time when it happened. I looked again and haven't seen anyone (Massino, Vitale, Lino, etc) identify Mauro in connection to the murders

Re: 40 years ago today

by thekiduknow » Thu May 06, 2021 10:05 am

Manhattan_ wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 9:42 am
chin_gigante wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 3:11 am
Manhattan_ wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:15 am Russell Mauro ? His name always pops up as the actual murder of Carmine Galante.
To the best of my knowledge Mauro's name hasn't come up in connection to the three captains
Who said that?

Re: 40 years ago today

by Manhattan_ » Thu May 06, 2021 9:42 am

chin_gigante wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 3:11 am
Manhattan_ wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:15 am Russell Mauro ? His name always pops up as the actual murder of Carmine Galante.
To the best of my knowledge Mauro's name hasn't come up in connection to the three captains

Re: 40 years ago today

by mike68 » Thu May 06, 2021 9:28 am

OcSleeper wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:17 pm
Ivan wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 11:46 am
mike68 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 9:24 am Vito Rizzuto's attendance and participation back then ended up setting up the great Montreal mob war over the past several years.
Fellas I'm ignorant and uncultured, someone please explain to me how this eventually culminated in the Montreal mayhem.
The 3 Capo Murders is what got Vito sent to prison in the US. People believe if he wasn't in jail none of what happened in Montreal would of happened.

So it's not like the 3 capos murders led to the war but it was a domino that fell leading up to it.
Exactly, Vito even predicted while the authorities were taking him way, that it would happen. He said he was the only one who could keep all of the factions working together, and he was right. They waited for him to be gone, and then they started the insurrection.

Re: 40 years ago today

by Pmac2 » Thu May 06, 2021 5:31 am

crazy that many guys kept that a secret for 20+ years till they all flipped. also clears up rumour sammys club was the scence of the hits

Re: 40 years ago today

by motorfab » Thu May 06, 2021 3:41 am

chin_gigante wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 3:10 am
motorfab wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:12 am I don't remember who it is anymore (Lino? Vitale?) But one of the informants had designated in addition of Rizzuto & Ragusa another zip from Montreal among the shooters, a guy nicknamed "The Old Man"
FNU Bonventre and the old timer are the same guy. Some of the sources said he was from Montreal and some said he was from New York
Thanks for clearing it up Chin

Re: 40 years ago today

by chin_gigante » Thu May 06, 2021 3:11 am

Manhattan_ wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:15 am Russell Mauro ? His name always pops up as the actual murder of Carmine Galante.
To the best of my knowledge Mauro's name hasn't come up in connection to the three captains

Re: 40 years ago today

by chin_gigante » Thu May 06, 2021 3:10 am

motorfab wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 1:12 am I don't remember who it is anymore (Lino? Vitale?) But one of the informants had designated in addition of Rizzuto & Ragusa another zip from Montreal among the shooters, a guy nicknamed "The Old Man"
FNU Bonventre and the old timer are the same guy. Some of the sources said he was from Montreal and some said he was from New York

Re: 40 years ago today

by Manhattan_ » Thu May 06, 2021 1:15 am

Russell Mauro ? His name always pops up as the actual murder of Carmine Galante.

Re: 40 years ago today

by motorfab » Thu May 06, 2021 1:12 am

I don't remember who it is anymore (Lino? Vitale?) But one of the informants had designated in addition of Rizzuto & Ragusa another zip from Montreal among the shooters, a guy nicknamed "The Old Man"

Re: 40 years ago today

by B. » Thu May 06, 2021 12:27 am

FNU Bonventre is probably Gaspare Bonventre, Santo Giordano's uncle.

There is an account of the injured Giordano being taken to his uncle Gaspare Bonventre's Brooklyn apartment before getting medical help. The story makes it out that Bonventre was already at home and the other men knocked on his door, but seems more likely he was the FNU Bonventre ID'd by Massino as an old timer at the murder scene. Another relative of Giordano, Francesco Navarra, also participated in the hit.

JimmyB had some info about a Gaspare Bonventre in the Castellammare family who had a reputation for violence and traveled between the US and Sicily during this period. Giordano and Navarra were related to Castellammarese mafia figures so there's a good chance this is the same Gaspare Bonventre.

Giordano was also involved with the Carmine Galante murder. Turns out to be a more important guy than a lot of us previously thought.

Re: 40 years ago today

by PolackTony » Wed May 05, 2021 9:45 pm

I recall reading something once that claimed Gotti helped with the bodies because he’d been friends with Massino since they were kids. This might have been some piece on the “mafia graveyard” in the “Hole” section of ENY where the three capos were buried. They way it was worded made it seem like they were from the same neighborhood. But that didn’t make any sense to me — Gotti grew up in ENY and Massino in Maspeth (?). So unless they had some other connection I don’t see that they would likely go back that far. They met when they were associates on the street in the 60s or 70s, correct? Did they know each other from running in the same hijacking circles?

Re: 40 years ago today

by Dave65827 » Wed May 05, 2021 7:48 pm

Gravano talked about this in his new video https://youtu.be/I9xR5a-qtCA
Also talks about the Galante hit and says Gotti was involved in getting rid of the guns/burying bodies in the three captains murder

Also can’t remember the names of Nick/Vito Rizzuto and said that “they aren’t a family there a crew of the bonnanos, the family is a media/newspaper invention”. His info may be a out of touch depending

Re: 40 years ago today

by chin_gigante » Wed May 05, 2021 5:08 pm

This is what I've got in terms of trying to keep track of everyone's involvement.


Waiting at the club:

- Santo Giordano (captain)
- Giovanni Ligammari (captain)
- Joseph Massino (captain)
- Gerlando Sciascia (captain)
- Francesco Navarra (soldier)

Waiting in closet:

- Salvatore Vitale (associate)
- Emanuel Ragusa (associate/ soldier)
- Vito Rizzuto (associate/ soldier)
- FNU Bonventre (associate/ soldier)

Lookout/ driver:

- Duane Leisenheimer (associate)

Clean-up crew:

- Dominick Napolitano (captain)
- Benjamin Ruggiero (acting captain)
- Anthony Rabito (soldier)
- Robert Capasio (associate)
- John Cerasani (associate)
- James Tartaglione (associate)

Unwitting witnesses:

- Nicholas DiStefano (captain)
- Joseph Zicarelli (captain)
- Frank Lino (acting captain)

Gambino disposal team:

- John Carneglia (Gambino soldier)
- Gene Gotti (Gambino soldier)
- Angelo Ruggiero (Gambino soldier)

Others:

- James Episcopia (soldier) described as "in on" the murders by Lefty Ruggiero in conversation with Joseph Pistone
- Nicholas Santora (associate) described as "in on" the murders by Ruggiero; later personally discussed witnessing Trinchera's murder in conversation with Pistone; Massino and Vitale later testified Santora had lied about his involvement
- Two individuals assigned by Napolitano to sit with Alfred Embarrato at the Motion Lounge until word came back that the murders had been successful

Other conspirators within the Bonanno family:

- Salvatore Ferrugia (acting boss) went with Massino and Sciascia to inform the Gambino and Colombo families that the rival captains were arming themselves
- Ferrugia and Stefano Cannone (consigliere) set up the captains' meeting
- Massino sent word in prison to Philip Rastelli (boss) through his brother Martin Rastelli (associate)

Conspirators from other families:

- Carmine Franzese (Colombo soldier) alerted Massino that the rival captains were hiding weapons at a junkyard owned by Trinchera in the Bronx
- Permission for the conspirators to defend themselves given by Paul Castellano (Gambino boss) and Carmine Persico (Colombo boss)
- John Gotti (Gambino acting captain) recruited by Massino to dispose of the bodies
- Aniello Dellacroce (Gambino underboss) and Edward Lino (Gambino associate) reached out to Frank Lino to see if he had alerted the police or the rival Bonanno faction to the murders after he escaped
- Frank DeCicco (Gambino soldier) and Angelo Ruggiero then sent back word that it was safe for the clean-up team to move the bodies

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