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Re: Northwest Indiana / Chicago Heights Mafia

by Tonyd621 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:45 pm

No he was not killed in prison. That is for sure false.

Re: Northwest Indiana / Chicago Heights Mafia

by Frank » Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:40 pm

Tocco died of natural cause

Re: Northwest Indiana / Chicago Heights Mafia

by Snakes » Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:14 pm

outfit guy wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:46 pm Al "Caesar" Tocco murdered in prison?
I don't think so. He had a stroke unless this poster is alleging some sort of cover up.

Re: Northwest Indiana / Chicago Heights Mafia

by outfit guy » Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:46 pm

Al "Caesar" Tocco murdered in prison?

Re: Northwest Indiana / Chicago Heights Mafia

by Baseball22 » Fri Apr 09, 2021 12:40 pm

Villain wrote:Wasnt there some meeting during the mid or late 80s that was hosted by Tocco?
Yes. Tocco also had a Greek wife and was a fugitive in Greece until the FBI captured him and he later was killed in prison


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Re: Northwest Indiana / Chicago Heights Mafia

by Villain » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:27 am

Wasnt there some meeting during the mid or late 80s that was hosted by Tocco?

Re: Northwest Indiana / Chicago Heights Mafia

by Villain » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:24 am

Snakes wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:21 am What's interesting about NW Indiana is that in 1983/84, the FBI identified the major Outfit guys in that area as Dominick Palermo, Nick Guzzino, Frank Zizzo, Bernard Morgano, Albert Roviaro, and Al Rosetti. No mention of Al Tocco is made. Everything collected in NW Indiana is then given to Palermo (not Tocco) to kick up to the Outfit bosses. Tocco is very rarely mentioned as being involved with NW Indiana, which leads me to believe that either the territory was split between he and Palermo (with Palermo and Zizzo running NW Indiana) or, more likely, Palermo being the overall boss of the area, as Zizzo was described as kicking up to him. Palermo was described as being "direct" with Outfit leadership. Now, whether or not Tocco eventually overtook overall leadership of the area may still be up for debate. At any rate, Palermo was back in charge after Tocco's imprisonment -- if he was not already the #1 guy.
Or one of them inherited LaPortes previous position and the other took care of the day-to-day ops....

Re: Northwest Indiana / Chicago Heights Mafia

by Snakes » Wed Mar 31, 2021 8:21 am

What's interesting about NW Indiana is that in 1983/84, the FBI identified the major Outfit guys in that area as Dominick Palermo, Nick Guzzino, Frank Zizzo, Bernard Morgano, Albert Roviaro, and Al Rosetti. No mention of Al Tocco is made. Everything collected in NW Indiana is then given to Palermo (not Tocco) to kick up to the Outfit bosses. Tocco is very rarely mentioned as being involved with NW Indiana, which leads me to believe that either the territory was split between he and Palermo (with Palermo and Zizzo running NW Indiana) or, more likely, Palermo being the overall boss of the area, as Zizzo was described as kicking up to him. Palermo was described as being "direct" with Outfit leadership. Now, whether or not Tocco eventually overtook overall leadership of the area may still be up for debate. At any rate, Palermo was back in charge after Tocco's imprisonment -- if he was not already the #1 guy.

Re: Northwest Indiana / Chicago Heights Mafia

by Baseball22 » Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:47 pm

Re: Northwest Indiana / Chicago Heights Mafia

by Baseball22 » Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:46 pm

Anyone hear about the Gerodemos family in Indiana?


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Re: Northwest Indiana / Chicago Heights Mafia

by Villain » Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:44 pm

Interesting to note is that some reports say that Jimmy Tortoriello was allegedly “exiled” from the Chicago area by his former cohorts and fled down to Florida, from where, according to the feds, he continued to deal with narcotics, while other reports say that he was the main South Florida overseer of the dope transportation for the Chicago faction. Theres also a story that Tortoriello was allegedly killed by some Colombian gang....before his murder or in 1982, two carloads of gunmen sprayed Tortoriello’s house at Deerfield Beach street...doesnt sound like an Outfit job...

Re: Northwest Indiana / Chicago Heights Mafia

by SolarSolano » Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:02 pm

Or Berwyn rather I guess - which is just as corrupt in my view. Even more so honestly.

Re: Northwest Indiana / Chicago Heights Mafia

by SolarSolano » Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:01 pm

I think Jim Tortoriello who was Mugsy's son and MArk's brother was working with Sarno while he was in Florida. He hooked his son up with those guys and his son (Formato) wore a wire, right? Jimmy Torotriello died before the indictment came down.

Only in Cicero can the son and grandson of a family like that become a cop. It's amazing really how many strings had to have been pulled there - these guys only rat or flip when the Feds come in.

Re: Northwest Indiana / Chicago Heights Mafia

by Villain » Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:46 am

Mark Tortoriello was killed in 83 while his dad was killed in 84 i think. Story goes that Mark was fatally wounded during an alleged cocaine deal which obviously went wrong.

Re: Northwest Indiana / Chicago Heights Mafia

by Snakes » Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:26 am

SolarSolano wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:19 am I think his company Amusements Inc. is still active - its on Harlem in Berwyn. I was always amazed the son and grandson of Mugsy Tortoriello were in Sarno's Cicero Crew.
One of Mugsy's sons was involved with drugs and killed in Florida in 1982. The killer was the son of a Colombo family member.

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