THE BLACK HAND FORUM

Raymond was a ruthless leader of his crime family who sanctioned the attempt to rob his own men in the Bonded Vault heist and the murders of Barboza, Candos and the bombing of Fitzgerald's car. When they died there was no one who could fill his shoes.

Everything I've ever heard or read supports that. He was a mans man and was respected nationwide. Ran his borgata the way you should. People sleep on his 30 plus year reign. One of the best bosses in LCN history IMO

best guy you would ever meet he helped out so many people in the neighborhood i idiolized him and still do great man

Wow never knew he had toes amputated from diabetes Thanks for the info!

he was a severe diabetic had some toes amputated in 0ct 80 had serious heart issues died of a heart attack period, wasnt engaging in sex

John got money from his book and the gov't I believe. I know these days he lives in a nice town. Was more curious about Jimmy. But do you think Jimmy and his brother are still close? Or was Jimmy forced to disassociate himself because John flipped, even though he didnt give the gov't anything involving his brother.

Ray Sr was in such poor health when he had that heart attack it’s almost impossible to imagine him engaging in any kinda sexual activity. But who knows....

Yes it's true ray sr suffered a heart attack while with his mistress and its been widely rumored it happened while engaging in some sort of sexual activity. I believe the media drew that conclusion namely Howie Carr

John Martorano seems to be living life like any blue collar retire. Don't know the details to his finances but he's seems comfortable and content.

I don't know why it would have been meant to be sarcastic. But its in Martoranos book. Only place ive ever seen it. Maybe it is meant to be a joke? I definitely haven't read or heard that rumor anywhere else so I figured I'd ask the board.

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NOT TRUE WAS IN POOR HEALTH FOR AWHILE
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I realize he was in poor health his death wasn't sudden, but my question is did the heart attack that killed him occur during a BJ? I just wasn't sure if this rumor pops up anywhere other than Martorano's book.
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R u sure it wasn't said in a sarcastic way???
Never heard that and I would assume we would have heard that before.

I love boston Mafia history. From the Irish gang wars to Anguilo.... And then the FBI ties with bulger.... Etc etc.

I use to look at frank salame as a joke before d steve flemmi testify and realized that lcn and bulger were working togetger

[quote=rphillips post_id=185924 time=1614687905 user_id=5234]
NOT TRUE WAS IN POOR HEALTH FOR AWHILE
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I realize he was in poor health his death wasn't sudden, but my question is did the heart attack that killed him occur during a BJ? I just wasn't sure if this rumor pops up anywhere other than Martorano's book.

NOT TRUE WAS IN POOR HEALTH FOR AWHILE

good question on those 2.

I'm rereading Johnny Martorano's Hitman book and came across something I hadn't noticed before. It says that rumor has it Ray Patriarca Sr died after having a heart attack while getting a blowjob. Has anyone else heard this before?

side note: How active do we think Jimmy Martorano and Jackie Salemme are in the last few years or so? I know theyre old, but do you think they live somewhat comfortably? Or are they aging brokesters, who can't make money the way they used to? Would love to hear some thoughts!