by Wiseguy » Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:41 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:03 am
You just HAVE to get all cute and cunty don’t you.
We’re talking absolute hypotheticals here and you get all passive aggressive.
This was my only point: IF a boss doesn’t fulfill a whole bunch of unknowns, at what level do we remove him, in a practical response, from being the boss. Ie Peter Gotti. There comes a time when despite the title, If a boss doesn’t fulfill a certain level of basic criteria we don’t carry them as functioning/legitimate.
We reached that with PG. At what stage (we were discussing a complete list of hypotheticals) would we do so with BB?
That’s a legit discussion which several posters have made interesting contributions on (polack)
Your response? “Why don’t you email the FBI and tell them BB isn’t a boss!” Hahahha.
See where you miss the boat?
You said it - hypotheticals. A theoretical discussion, based on hypotheticals, of what constitutes "a boss." Which, hypothetically, could be applied to any guy at the top right now. And in Barney's case, we are so starved for info (to use your phrase) that it almost renders the discussion pointless. Especially when him being the boss seems to be the common thinking across the board.
What did the GL News article tell us?
* Bellomo has been identified as "the boss," "calling the shots," etc. by law enforcement officials and other reliable sources
* Bellomo is the reason "people from Brooklyn and the Bronx have been showing up in lower Manhattan in the last few years"
* DiChicara served as street boss, relaying messages from Bellomo to captains and important family soldiers
* Bellomo has had no legal problems since his release in December 2008
* Bellomo receives rental income every month from numerous apartment buildings worth millions of dollars that he owns in the Bronx and northern suburbs
* Bellomo has financial interests in construction companies
* He still resides in New York when he's not at his condo in Florida
What exactly, either from this article or what has or hasn't happened since, has people bringing up their own checklists of what makes a boss? Especially in regards to Bellomo?
sharpieone wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:28 pm
I guess I phrased this thread poorly, and I apologize. I totally understand he holds the position and is identified as such by LE and members. I’m just wondering, in 2020, with next to no murders being called, how much goes into his involvement with the enterprise? Someone brought up a good point about promotions and demotions. But if someone is meeting with a few acting administration members after the random death or indictment, that seems like it’s not even worth risking your ass for. I totally agree that this is what it takes to stay off the government radar. I just wonder how often bosses now call the shots on how to stay the most profitable, or if they only meet and mandate when it comes to an administrative shuffle. I didn’t mean to call into question BB being in that position, I only meant to use him as an example of someone occupying a position that’s so vastly different now — possibly to the point at which they merely act as senior counsel.
Every boss has their own approach but it definitely seems Bellomo is the type to stay in the background and delegate as much as possible. But that's based on some vague, general info we've received about him in recent years. Him typically relaying messages through one guy doesn't necessarily mean he
never meets with anyone else.
Maybe because he hasn't been indicted yet - which could happen next week, next month, or next year for all we know - people think he's too hands off. You will recall that, even back in the 1990's, law enforcement said Bellomo was very hard to surveil.
Anyway, it just seems people have come to certain conclusions about Bellomo that aren't really warranted yet.
[quote=SonnyBlackstein post_id=176803 time=1607670228 user_id=171]
You just HAVE to get all cute and cunty don’t you.
We’re talking absolute hypotheticals here and you get all passive aggressive.
This was my only point: IF a boss doesn’t fulfill a whole bunch of unknowns, at what level do we remove him, in a practical response, from being the boss. Ie Peter Gotti. There comes a time when despite the title, If a boss doesn’t fulfill a certain level of basic criteria we don’t carry them as functioning/legitimate.
We reached that with PG. At what stage (we were discussing a complete list of hypotheticals) would we do so with BB?
That’s a legit discussion which several posters have made interesting contributions on (polack)
Your response? “Why don’t you email the FBI and tell them BB isn’t a boss!” Hahahha.
See where you miss the boat?
[/quote]
You said it - hypotheticals. A theoretical discussion, based on hypotheticals, of what constitutes "a boss." Which, hypothetically, could be applied to any guy at the top right now. And in Barney's case, we are so starved for info (to use your phrase) that it almost renders the discussion pointless. Especially when him being the boss seems to be the common thinking across the board.
What did the GL News article tell us?
* Bellomo has been identified as "the boss," "calling the shots," etc. by law enforcement officials and other reliable sources
* Bellomo is the reason "people from Brooklyn and the Bronx have been showing up in lower Manhattan in the last few years"
* DiChicara served as street boss, relaying messages from Bellomo to captains and important family soldiers
* Bellomo has had no legal problems since his release in December 2008
* Bellomo receives rental income every month from numerous apartment buildings worth millions of dollars that he owns in the Bronx and northern suburbs
* Bellomo has financial interests in construction companies
* He still resides in New York when he's not at his condo in Florida
What exactly, either from this article or what has or hasn't happened since, has people bringing up their own checklists of what makes a boss? Especially in regards to Bellomo?
[quote=sharpieone post_id=176909 time=1607722083 user_id=5747]
I guess I phrased this thread poorly, and I apologize. I totally understand he holds the position and is identified as such by LE and members. I’m just wondering, in 2020, with next to no murders being called, how much goes into his involvement with the enterprise? Someone brought up a good point about promotions and demotions. But if someone is meeting with a few acting administration members after the random death or indictment, that seems like it’s not even worth risking your ass for. I totally agree that this is what it takes to stay off the government radar. I just wonder how often bosses now call the shots on how to stay the most profitable, or if they only meet and mandate when it comes to an administrative shuffle. I didn’t mean to call into question BB being in that position, I only meant to use him as an example of someone occupying a position that’s so vastly different now — possibly to the point at which they merely act as senior counsel.
[/quote]
Every boss has their own approach but it definitely seems Bellomo is the type to stay in the background and delegate as much as possible. But that's based on some vague, general info we've received about him in recent years. Him typically relaying messages through one guy doesn't necessarily mean he [i]never[/i] meets with anyone else.
Maybe because he hasn't been indicted yet - which could happen next week, next month, or next year for all we know - people think he's too hands off. You will recall that, even back in the 1990's, law enforcement said Bellomo was very hard to surveil.
Anyway, it just seems people have come to certain conclusions about Bellomo that aren't really warranted yet.