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Re: illiterate mobsters

by newera_212 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:39 pm

axx wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:11 pm Didn't both Bruno and Trinchera own legitimate businesses? How can an illiterate man fill any paper form for his business? Trinchera's English was supposedly bad, but that doesn't mean he was illiterate.
I think bruno had a ton of legit business, again, supposedly. A pizza parlor, auto salvage, and i think he was set up as a vendor at the Brooklyn Terminal Market. D'Arco was the one who said he couldn't read or write, but was a "sharp guy"

I agree on Trinchera. I'm not sure where i read/heard that but that's why i said supposedly. I have an older in law who managed to buy a home and run a business in Brooklyn and still to this day does not speak English but they aren't illiterate. I frankly find it hard to believe that anyone in LCN from that era (born in 20s-40s and/or born in USA) would be completely illiterate

Re: illiterate mobsters

by Ryan98366 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:21 pm

JakeTheSnake630 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:54 am Which Boston Mob book? Underboss? Carmen Tortora was a part of that induction ceremony right?

I think so. It was the first book on them. Written in the 1990’s. They had lots of dialogue from the wire tapes in the Angiolo’s office. Carmen Tortora came up there to say goodbye and they were offering him wine and one of them said they would get him a TV because he couldn’t read. Maybe it was Danny or one of the brothers. Or it was Larry Zannino. I remember it though.

Re: illiterate mobsters

by axx » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:11 pm

Didn't both Bruno and Trinchera own legitimate businesses? How can an illiterate man fill any paper form for his business? Trinchera's English was supposedly bad, but that doesn't mean he was illiterate.

Re: illiterate mobsters

by Pogo The Clown » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:33 am

I checked and Facciolo was born December 30, 1936. Don't know where but probably the US.


Pogo

Re: illiterate mobsters

by newera_212 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:17 am

Bruno Facciola (sp) was supposedly illiterate, along with Dominick Trinchera

Can't find any info on when or where Bruno was born. Born in Italy at the turn of the century and you're illiterate throughout your life? That makes sense. But if he was born in the US , in NYC, even if it was during the 10s/20s/30s... that's pretty bad...

Re: illiterate mobsters

by JakeTheSnake630 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:54 am

Which Boston Mob book? Underboss? Carmen Tortora was a part of that induction ceremony right?

Re: illiterate mobsters

by Ryan98366 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:06 pm

I remember the book on the Boston Mob, Underboss Genaro Anguilo had a mobster named Carmen Tortora to their office before he went to prison. They told him they would send him a TV when he was in prison because he couldn’t read.

Re: illiterate mobsters

by Snakes » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:56 pm

TallGuy19 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:59 am Most of the former mobsters that I see online are barely literate. Michael Franzese seems like a pretty sharp guy—but the rest of them don't understand basic grammar, spelling, punctuation, or capitalization. It's amazing that these people who read and write at probably a 3rd-grade level are able to run such complicated schemes.
Have you seen some of the posts on this site?

Re: illiterate mobsters

by TallGuy19 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:59 am

Most of the former mobsters that I see online are barely literate. Michael Franzese seems like a pretty sharp guy—but the rest of them don't understand basic grammar, spelling, punctuation, or capitalization. It's amazing that these people who read and write at probably a 3rd-grade level are able to run such complicated schemes.

Re: illiterate mobsters

by chubby » Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:45 pm

bronx wrote: ↑Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:58 pm as in can read or write?
Not being able to read/write.
You know of any to add to the list???

Personally I don’t know if any, I know Sammy was dyslexic,he might not be great at reading or writing and could be performing at like a grade school level... but I think he can read and write the basics...

I wonder how his dyslexia affected him when it came to counting money... honestly. Cause in one of his new interviews he was talking about his dyslexia saying how numbers looked different to him. Like a 3 looked like an 8 and a 8 looked like a 3 and so on....

Re: illiterate mobsters

by bronx » Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:59 pm

or just low i.q.?

Re: illiterate mobsters

by bronx » Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:58 pm

as in can read or write?

Re: illiterate mobsters

by ChicagoOutfit » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:38 pm

Pete Gotti looks illiterate...

Re: illiterate mobsters

by furiofromnaples » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:20 am

Sammy Gravano is dyslexic and not having gone to high school has nothing to do with being illiterate.At the beginning many immigrant mafiosi couldn't read and write in Italian and barely understood how to speak in english.

Re: illiterate mobsters

by Shellackhead » Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:36 am

JakeTheSnake630 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:34 am Might be a weird question but I find it interesting. I know Skinny Dom can't read or write. Do we know of any other mobsters that were illiterate?
I think Henry Hill, Sammy the Bull, a lot of them didn’t even make it to high school

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