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Re: Mike vs Mike

by furiofromnaples » Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:21 am

Dave65827 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:19 pm Maybe it’s a case of too many capos too little soldiers?

Or maybe it’s the case they make everybody in the bonnanos and that’s why they have the crews? Didn’t some guy that flipped recently say he paid 10k to be inducted it probably ain’t hard to get made in the bonnanos lol
Looking to Pogo charts

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Lucchese 6 capos 80 made men

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Bonanno 10 capos 98 made man (5 shelved)

Re: Mike vs Mike

by Pmac2 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:17 am

i would guess the bonannos arnt held in high esteem still. just a clusterfuck. less then a few years ago there selling memberships. how many other guys bought them to. the other families probaly avoid them like the plague. i bet each familie probaly has like 1 designated capo to deal with the bonanno and any sitdown they ask for

Re: Mike vs Mike

by Pmac2 » Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:12 am

i fortgot his name he was a brooklyn staten island guy and he paid the bonanno acting consig at the time 5k down to get made and owed the rest. the consig went threw and made the guy. there was some other factor in it to. he had to get made because he was being shacken down or something. that consig was shelved to for stealing money or not paying it back. he name was esposito simone or something the guy who fliped after being inducted for 1 yr might hold the record for fastes guy flipping in the 5 families

Re: Mike vs Mike

by Dave65827 » Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:19 pm

Maybe it’s a case of too many capos too little soldiers?

Or maybe it’s the case they make everybody in the bonnanos and that’s why they have the crews? Didn’t some guy that flipped recently say he paid 10k to be inducted it probably ain’t hard to get made in the bonnanos lol

Re: Mike vs Mike

by Pogo The Clown » Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:04 pm

They still had 14 or 15 Crews in 2015.


Pogo

Re: Mike vs Mike

by Wiseguy » Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:47 pm

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:21 pm
furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:02 am
slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:10 am Mancuso. He’s official boss and plus the Bonanno’s have more made guys than the Lukes.
Depens on the rackets,the Lukes had a strong presence also in NJ.
The family doesn’t have that many crews, compared to the Bonannos. However the Lukes for sure have a bigger presence in Jersey. Besides Joe Sammartino’s crew I dont think there’s any other Bonanno crew in Nj.
Anyone know how many Bonanno made guys there are in Jersey?
What makes you think the Bonannos have significantly more crews than the Luccheses at this point? They don't have 15 crews anymore. It's not 2001.

And I don't think there's even a Bonanno crew based in Jersey now. The Sammartino indictment was well over a decade ago. More recently, in 2019, it was reported two of the New York families "operate in the state" - which I took to mean have crew(s) based there - while the Gambinos and Bonannos had "recent ties" to New Jersey.

Re: Mike vs Mike

by slimshady_007 » Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:21 pm

furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:02 am
slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:10 am Mancuso. He’s official boss and plus the Bonanno’s have more made guys than the Lukes.
Depens on the rackets,the Lukes had a strong presence also in NJ.
The family doesn’t have that many crews, compared to the Bonannos. However the Lukes for sure have a bigger presence in Jersey. Besides Joe Sammartino’s crew I dont think there’s any other Bonanno crew in Nj.
Anyone know how many Bonanno made guys there are in Jersey?

Re: Mike vs Mike

by newera_212 » Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:08 am

Mason_dixon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:44 am Lukes are down hard right now looking like they are absurdly 4rth family now. Bonnaroo prob have twice as many men on the street. Joe Saunders and them need brought off the shelf...Bonnaroo have been trending up in my opinion and there are counts of possibly being 160 made men....
Even if that is true and the count is accurate, the Luccheses have always been traditionally very small. I think that if anything's hurt them more than general attrition and rats, loss of members, etc. - it's the sheer loss of rackets due to how much the world has changed. They were always small in numbers but had a stranglehold on the most quality of rackets in my opinion. Top leaders in drugs, garments, trucking, the airport, etc. I always saw them as the small, stable, serious "money" family - but now if they're out there fighting over the same dollar as everyone else, combined with their recent admin switch up, low membership count, etc. than that can't be good for them.

Re: Mike vs Mike

by furiofromnaples » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:02 am

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:10 am Mancuso. He’s official boss and plus the Bonanno’s have more made guys than the Lukes.
Depens on the rackets,the Lukes had a strong presence also in NJ.

Re: Mike vs Mike

by Amershire_Ed » Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:48 pm

Capeci has been writing like the DeSantis indictment is a mere formality at this point

Re: Mike vs Mike

by Wiseguy » Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:47 pm

Mason_dixon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:44 amBonnaroo have been trending up in my opinion and there are counts of possibly being 160 made men....
Not sure where those counts are coming from.

Re: Mike vs Mike

by InCamelot » Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:25 pm

Its funny 3 of the 5 families may be lead by someone named Michael.

Re: Mike vs Mike

by Jbravo » Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:35 am

I agree.. They are very quiet now and wont speak with just anyone even some associates. I know of little guys giving them headaches on a small scale and they just let these guys get away with it so as to not expose themselves on something.

Re: Mike vs Mike

by Mason_dixon » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:45 am

sorry for spelling errors damn samsung

Re: Mike vs Mike

by Mason_dixon » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:44 am

Lukes are down hard right now looking like they are absurdly 4rth family now. Bonnaroo prob have twice as many men on the street. Joe Saunders and them need brought off the shelf...Bonnaroo have been trending up in my opinion and there are counts of possibly being 160 made men....

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