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Re: Three Capos Murders

by JeremyTheJew » Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:05 pm

RamshackleMan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:36 pm I wonderr how history would have unfolded if Sonny Red's faction had wiped out the other side and gained control. Would have been a huge problem for Joe Pistone, for sure.
I personally like discussing what if scenarios even if they are GBB style...

Sicilians woulda been happy.
And massino woulda been killed with sonny black

Pistone might still have taken em down tho

Re: Three Capos Murders

by RamshackleMan » Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:36 pm

I wonderr how history would have unfolded if Sonny Red's faction had wiped out the other side and gained control. Would have been a huge problem for Joe Pistone, for sure.

Re: Three Capos Murders

by Southshore88 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:44 pm

newera_212 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:52 am
RamshackleMan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:21 am
newera_212 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:55 pm If it happened at Sammy's club, we would have heard it from him (correct me if I'm wrong and he's said something about it).
He briefly mentioned the hit during his video about Massino/Vitale but never claimed any role in it.
Yeah I remember catching that. The same episode where Sammy really shows his distate for Massino. I guess he considers their situations different - but I wonder if Sammy were in Massino's situation (i.e. the Feds making him tape Basciano in lockup) what he would have done...

Anyway, the timeframes don't really line up either. Massino and Vitale had a relationship with the Ozone Park Gambinos (as seen from them helping with disposal of bodies from this very murder) but at that time, Gotti and Sammy weren't "together" yet and I'm going to guess Massino didn't have a relationship with Sammy that was independent of Gotti, or one that pre-existed Sammy's position in the Gambino Admin all together. So the hit taking place at one of Sammy's clubs is probably not true at all.
Agreed. Massino was a Queens guy like Gotti while Sammy was a Brooklyn guy. If it happened in Brooklyn, likely would’ve been thru someone else he had been connected with

Re: Three Capos Murders

by newera_212 » Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:52 am

RamshackleMan wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:21 am
newera_212 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:55 pm If it happened at Sammy's club, we would have heard it from him (correct me if I'm wrong and he's said something about it).
He briefly mentioned the hit during his video about Massino/Vitale but never claimed any role in it.
Yeah I remember catching that. The same episode where Sammy really shows his distate for Massino. I guess he considers their situations different - but I wonder if Sammy were in Massino's situation (i.e. the Feds making him tape Basciano in lockup) what he would have done...

Anyway, the timeframes don't really line up either. Massino and Vitale had a relationship with the Ozone Park Gambinos (as seen from them helping with disposal of bodies from this very murder) but at that time, Gotti and Sammy weren't "together" yet and I'm going to guess Massino didn't have a relationship with Sammy that was independent of Gotti, or one that pre-existed Sammy's position in the Gambino Admin all together. So the hit taking place at one of Sammy's clubs is probably not true at all.

Re: Three Capos Murders

by RamshackleMan » Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:21 am

newera_212 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:55 pm If it happened at Sammy's club, we would have heard it from him (correct me if I'm wrong and he's said something about it).
He briefly mentioned the hit during his video about Massino/Vitale but never claimed any role in it.

Re: Three Capos Murders

by newera_212 » Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:01 pm

The 13th Ave / 67th Street location that was mentioned earlier in the thread makes the most sense. The building today looks like the perfect location for a social club or what used to be a social club. Hearing that the hit went down at a "night club" always struck me as weird.

Re: Three Capos Murders

by newera_212 » Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:55 pm

Exactly. There's been so many varying accounts of where it took place. Even from legit Biographers and people with better access to court docs like DeStefano, to me, it's never been 100% firm. The location has ranged from a Social Club in Clinton Hill, to a Night Club in Coney Island. Have also heard that the Embassy Terrace 'club' was also both in Bensonhurst and Gravesend. The Clinton Hill one is weird just because that was never really a big LCN area, at least in the early 80s - even though guys like Cacace, Louis Attanasio, and D'Arco all grew up on the fringes of Clinton Hill.

If it happened at Sammy's club, we would have heard it from him (correct me if I'm wrong and he's said something about it). I think people may have their wires crossed between Sammy's "Plaza Suite" and where it actually took place

Re: Three Capos Murders

by GaspipeCasso » Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:14 am

I'm surprised Sammy hasn't done 2-3 episodes on this being his club and how it went down. Would be alot more interesting then his rambling about "trump"

Re: Three Capos Murders

by axx » Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:48 am

RamshackleMan wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:23 pm Is there any consensus about where this hit actually took place? I've read varying accounts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx-68u5quqE
Go to 10:30
IIRC the club was Gravano's

Re: Three Capos Murders

by RamshackleMan » Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:23 pm

Is there any consensus about where this hit actually took place? I've read varying accounts.

Re: Three Capos Murders

by Pmac2 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:12 am

was it in the basement or was the bar closed. never heard what time it happend either. must have been real early or real late. the neighbors nver called the cops with shotgun blasts

Re: Three Capos Murders

by Pmac2 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:09 am

is there a picture of the club they were murderd in or a current photo of the spot??

Re: Three Capos Murders

by thekiduknow » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:55 am

cosanostra101 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:50 am
thekiduknow wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:30 pm I was looking back at Massino's testimony he mentions a "Vinny from Canada" as one of the shooters, does anyone know who that would be?
Do you know where I can find Massino's testimony? I could have sworn I saw it here but I can not find the link. Thank you.
I posted the testimony in the FBI files section.

Re: Three Capos Murders

by cobra » Sun Feb 21, 2021 9:45 am

B. wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:50 pm Makes you wonder if Cesare Bonventre may have been related to Giordano, Fiordilino, etc. given the connection to the Bonventre name. It's a common name in CDG mafia circles and shows up in many different family trees, so could go either way. Hard not to find a Bonventre or Buccellato when doing genealogy on anyone from that village.

Giordano gets mentioned in a lot of places but not in much detail. His importance may have gotten a bit lost due to his paralysis and death. He was a driver or at least an accomplice at the scene of the Carmine Galante murder, then a central part of the three captains hit. Would be great if we could find out more about him becoming captain, acting or not.
-bonventre cesare b.1951/1/1 d.1984/4/16
-son of bonventre gaspare

Re: Three Capos Murders

by cosanostra101 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 8:50 am

thekiduknow wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:30 pm I was looking back at Massino's testimony he mentions a "Vinny from Canada" as one of the shooters, does anyone know who that would be?
Do you know where I can find Massino's testimony? I could have sworn I saw it here but I can not find the link. Thank you.

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