by PolackTony » Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:34 am
pat_marcy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:48 am
So when you say members this is just Italians yes? Cause over the years they’ve had people like gus Alex, humphries etc who are not Italian obviously but you’d say they were members of the outfit
“The outfit” is just a synonym for “Cosa Nostra”/mafia (used all over the country also, not at all unique or particular to Chicago). Alex, Humphreys, et al., were *not* members, they were valuable and highly respected associates, as every Family had. *Members* doesn’t mean “Italians” — it means “made guys”, i.e., inducted members of the mafia. There were always Italian guys who were associates and not made guys (all members are Italian, or at least half-Italian in a couple of cases, but not all Italians are members).
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So when you say members this is just Italians yes? Cause over the years they’ve had people like gus Alex, humphries etc who are not Italian obviously but you’d say they were members of the outfit
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“The outfit” is just a synonym for “Cosa Nostra”/mafia (used all over the country also, not at all unique or particular to Chicago). Alex, Humphreys, et al., were *not* members, they were valuable and highly respected associates, as every Family had. *Members* doesn’t mean “Italians” — it means “made guys”, i.e., inducted members of the mafia. There were always Italian guys who were associates and not made guys (all members are Italian, or at least half-Italian in a couple of cases, but not all Italians are members).