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Re: 41 years ago today....

by Super » Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:50 pm

True and it took pretty much all the top people in that family to pull it of the 3capos the zips Massino Sonny black Bruno and the commision.

Re: 41 years ago today....

by Shellackhead » Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:40 pm

Super wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:08 pm My thinking from everything ive read about Carmine Galante who was going to tell him he wasnt boss i think everyone was petrified of him . He had zips he had Canadians he had people all over the country and in my opinion was a lot more powerful than Phil Rastelli.
Not powerful enough since his own family clipped him.

Re: 41 years ago today....

by Super » Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:08 pm

My thinking from everything ive read about Carmine Galante who was going to tell him he wasnt boss i think everyone was petrified of him . He had zips he had Canadians he had people all over the country and in my opinion was a lot more powerful than Phil Rastelli.

Re: 41 years ago today....

by Joeyboy1982 » Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:26 am

Never understood how this guy lasted as long as he did despite his threats to the rest of the commission, the disrespect to Costello's grave and his own savage greed.....he seems like one if the most tyrannical bosses in history, loathed, feared and hated.

Re: 41 years ago today....

by Pmac2 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:29 am

Gerry catena was acting boss for genovese while he was locked up during the 60tys. I think and I'm almost positive when rusty goes to prison in 76 he makes galante his old friend the acting boss. The other family agree with the decision knowing rusty will be in prison for atleast the next 5 6 years. The other bosses even allow galante to probaly induct 80 new guys into the family in just a 1yr period dec76 till he hoes back to jail on parole violation dec77. Then his reign as acting boss is over. And the wheels are in motion to kill him the min he gets out. I think his real issue was he killed either the Montreal capo or the bushwick capo licata without rusty's ok and that was why he really died

Re: 41 years ago today....

by Super » Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:33 pm

Hopefully one of the more knowledgeable posters can break that down buddy don't know to much about that think I might of seen somewhere in a book the damage to the crypt he was a proper gangster . Enjoying your posts.

Re: 41 years ago today....

by JeremyTheJew » Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:05 pm

Super wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:17 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:49 pm I think there has been enough ppl that verified Galante was not OFFICIAL rather more of a de facto.

Just like with Corozz or Gambino just bc they wanted it doesn't mean it was official.

As far as making people, yes massino was made by Galante
Who did nicky make ?? Galante was the boss out of the hundred or so bonanno capos and soldiers told him he wasn't.The ny bosses didn't want to deal with him. Joe massino went round ruffling feathers creating drama that wasn't there. Nicky ain't done 10 percent of what lilo did my opinion.
You are right they are diff situations..

I more meant that ppl were calling corozzo boss but you are right these are two different situations.

The cammarano jnr situation is different also bc it doesn't look like galante would have taken being shelved... did he really blow up the Costello's mausoleum gates??

Re: 41 years ago today....

by Fughedaboutit » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:50 pm

JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:00 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:57 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:54 pmWhat is your take on would galante staying boss be less damaging then what actually happened??

The power basically would of been zips with three capos under followed by massino and Sony black pretty much
Not sure I understand the question. Less damaging than Rastelli? Less damaging than what happened with Massino years later?

I'm not one to usually guess about hypotheticals but it seems Galante wasn't really liked by many outside his inner circle. That alone could have made his time as actual boss a tumultuous one.
Ya.. was goin BB for a min there...
:roll:

Re: 41 years ago today....

by Super » Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:17 pm

JeremyTheJew wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:49 pm I think there has been enough ppl that verified Galante was not OFFICIAL rather more of a de facto.

Just like with Corozz or Gambino just bc they wanted it doesn't mean it was official.

As far as making people, yes massino was made by Galante
Who did nicky make ?? Galante was the boss out of the hundred or so bonanno capos and soldiers told him he wasn't.The ny bosses didn't want to deal with him. Joe massino went round ruffling feathers creating drama that wasn't there. Nicky ain't done 10 percent of what lilo did my opinion.

Re: 41 years ago today....

by Frank » Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:16 pm

Isnt the Joe Cammarano Jr. take over of the Bonannos similar to Galantes take over?

Re: 41 years ago today....

by thekiduknow » Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:06 pm

B. wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:41 pm At Massino's induction, Galante asked the new inductees who the boss of the family was. Everyone said Galante except Massino, who said Rastelli. Galante said that was true as of last week, but the previous week he had become the new boss. So we can figure it was the first week of June 1977 that Galante went from acting boss to usurping the role of "official" boss (without Commission support). It's in that big thread about the early 70s Bonannos, but sources within the Bonanno family told the FBI they expected Galante to try and take over the family even before his initial release from prison.
Given that Massino was initially on record with Rastelli, and became Rastelli’s “eyes and ears”, it’s interesting that Galante made Massino and presided over the ceremony. It shows a small continuation from Rastelli’s rule to Galante’s rule, however brief it was.

Re: 41 years ago today....

by JMAN723 » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:52 pm

JMAN723 wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:55 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:49 pm I think there has been enough ppl that verified Galante was not OFFICIAL rather more of a de facto.

Just like with Corozz or Gambino just bc they wanted it doesn't mean it was official.

As far as making people, yes massino was made by Galante

True. Galante wasn’t the official boss with Rusty in prison but was the de facto boss. Yeah he made Joe Massino, Anthony Spero, Jerry Chilli, and a few others.

Re: 41 years ago today....

by B. » Mon Jul 13, 2020 3:41 pm

At Massino's induction, Galante asked the new inductees who the boss of the family was. Everyone said Galante except Massino, who said Rastelli. Galante said that was true as of last week, but the previous week he had become the new boss. So we can figure it was the first week of June 1977 that Galante went from acting boss to usurping the role of "official" boss (without Commission support). It's in that big thread about the early 70s Bonannos, but sources within the Bonanno family told the FBI they expected Galante to try and take over the family even before his initial release from prison.

Re: 41 years ago today....

by JMAN723 » Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:55 pm

JeremyTheJew wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:49 pm I think there has been enough ppl that verified Galante was not OFFICIAL rather more of a de facto.

Just like with Corozz or Gambino just bc they wanted it doesn't mean it was official.

As far as making people, yes massino was made by Galante

True. Galante wasn’t the official boss with Rusty in prison but was the de facto boss. Yeah he made Joe Massino, Anthony Soweto, Jerry Chilli, and a few others.

Re: 41 years ago today....

by Frank » Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:43 pm

JeremyTheJew wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 12:49 pm I think there has been enough ppl that verified Galante was not OFFICIAL rather more of a de facto.

Just like with Corozz or Gambino just bc they wanted it doesn't mean it was official.

As far as making people, yes massino was made by Galante
I agree that its a fine line of what Galante was and its debatable. But I dont agree at all about Corozzo. Corozzo was not the Boss at all. He wasn't even sure he wanted it.

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