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by **Mason_dixon** » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:15 pm

Thanks interesting reply too bad so little is known on the closest family to me Chicago even that’s like 4-5 hours

by **West Coast1** » Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:16 pm

Ask the cannoli king

Not being a dick but were you on acid when you first posted? Joking

My answer is from like 40 or more years ago, now adays I have no Idea

they are better people than most give them credit for, I saw guys use their money like robin hood. I stand by that.

Geno fam trucking, garbage, waterfront, construction gambling, drugs but was never talked about, own judges and basically owned everyone. Owned NJ for sure even Hudson County is mostly known By Bonanno Joe Bayonne but as far as I know Geno fam was way bigger than him and them there.

Luke same on lower level owned Newark politicians

Gambino same huge level, more ny than nj . garments in the mix, jewelry, I'm sure others too but I don't have info

Colombo I have never heard anything about them

Bonanno I have never heard anything about them other than Joe Bayonne

Decalv construction

Philly made people nervous, made mistake and lukes made some aquisitions Philly in nj were tight with Lukes in Newark

by **Jbravo** » Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:33 pm

Not the same anymore at all but the reputation of made or even connected guys still carry weight on the streets.

by **Mason_dixon** » Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:45 pm

I agree I was just wondering if one family is less likely to be messed vs another.

by **Wiseguy** » Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:04 pm

richy67 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:17 amWhat about on a non OC level though? Say your in a pub and theres a bit of aggro for example, would the fear fsctor still be there on a ground level of dont fuck about hes a dodgy guy or hes mob connected etc?

Assuming they knew who the mob guy was in the first place, they'd probably think twice before starting something. Even today, unless they're crazy or just don't give an F, who wants to open a possible can of worms by getting into some shoving match with a made guy?

by **Mason_dixon** » Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:45 am

Great refrence of the 2 associates

by **richy67** » Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:17 am

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:09 pm
richy67 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:17 pm Have asked the same on here a few times and never really got an answer, do the mob still have an effect/reputation on the street level? Ie dont fuck about with him hes connected to so and so, and is there a genuine threat of violence for crossing these guys?
The mob does what it has for a long time - trade on it's reputation. While they still do happen from time, more so than many who don't follow the mob might think, the murders are a lot less than in the past. This does protect against law enforcement pressure, guys possibly flipping, and long sentences, but it does also reduce the fear factor on the street. People get away with more because the mob is slower to resort to the gun.

What about on a non OC level though? Say your in a pub and theres a bit of aggro for example, would the fear fsctor still be there on a ground level of dont fuck about hes a dodgy guy or hes mob connected etc?

by **Wiseguy** » Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:09 pm

richy67 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:17 pm Have asked the same on here a few times and never really got an answer, do the mob still have an effect/reputation on the street level? Ie dont fuck about with him hes connected to so and so, and is there a genuine threat of violence for crossing these guys?

The mob does what it has for a long time - trade on it's reputation. While they still do happen from time, more so than many who don't follow the mob might think, the murders are a lot less than in the past. This does protect against law enforcement pressure, guys possibly flipping, and long sentences, but it does also reduce the fear factor on the street. People get away with more because the mob is slower to resort to the gun.

by **gohnjotti** » Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:47 pm

A generalisation about the Colombos is that they are backstabbers. I think (but don’t quote me on this) that this notion is generally echoed in court testimony by people like Michael DiLeonardo and other mob rats, who are generally asked about the Five Families by prosecutors as introductory questions, but I recall it was specifically brought up on a wiretap between Colombo associate Roger Califano and his brother-in-law Lucchese associate Giovanni Galluzzo, where Califano was essentially bemoaning the new Colombo regime and the Colombos in general as shaking down their own men, whereas Galluzzo was almost gloating that his higher-ups barely bothered him at all.

by **richy67** » Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:17 pm

Have asked the same on here a few times and never really got an answer, do the mob still have an effect/reputation on the street level? Ie dont fuck about with him hes connected to so and so, and is there a genuine threat of violence for crossing these guys?

by **Peppermint** » Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:59 am

Extortion wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:02 pm That all mob guys are into gambling and loansharking and waste management

And construction, can’t forget about construction.

by **Mason_dixon** » Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:39 am

Thanks interesting stuff exactly what I was looking for !

by **queensnyer** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:39 pm

Mason_dixon wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:48 pm Interesting reply I guess what I was trying to hear answers about is the differences between the different families ? Like are there certain families you just don’t Cross and the others you might push your luck a little bit cause they are in such dis array (columbos,maybe Luke’s) . Or just describing factors of differences between Bonnanos and Gambinos or Luke’s and Genovese in the culture of their brogatas ?

well from what I understand the Genovese fam is considered the most powerful. certain idiots claim they are non violent..no they are jut not recklessly bringing le attention by shooting it out over every little issue.. the Colombo fam is in disarray but they are not dead...in fact they are the opposite of the Genovese guys. blue collar shooters. its what led them tp their current position. the lukes. bonannos and gambinos are existing. some guys powerful so not so much. the Gambino sicilian faction is serious. obviously im a poster on a forum so im not relating first hand other than being in the neighborhoods my whole life. I believe its the areas and the type of people who gravitate to particular families. the Genovese want you to be around them 10 tears before you can be made apparently. smart..the bonanno fam makes almost anyone to get their numbers and $ up. their all different organizations, but my original post again none are as powerful as they were. a lot less fear of these guys on the streets these days whether its a mistake or not. idk but so far a lot of shit Is being let go that never would have been 25-30 years ago.

by **Mason_dixon** » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:48 pm

Interesting reply I guess what I was trying to hear answers about is the differences between the different families ? Like are there certain families you just don’t Cross and the others you might push your luck a little bit cause they are in such dis array (columbos,maybe Luke’s) . Or just describing factors of differences between Bonnanos and Gambinos or Luke’s and Genovese in the culture of their brogatas ?

by **queensnyer** » Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:51 pm

2 biggest myths each contradicting each other…..they are finished.. their not..and 2. they are powerful...they are not..... they fall somewhere in between currently. the new crop of talent is a waste but a few guys could turn out to be powerhouses, we will have to see. I know personally of a lot of incidents (guys disrespecting and even assaulting made men/ independents telling buttons to fuck off)) that would have never been tolerated in even the 90s. its a paper tiger. but it exists and all it needs is time if allowed

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