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Re: Richard Cantarella testimony notes

by Wiseguy » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:43 pm

Cheech wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:09 pm The writer keeps referring to joe massino as bonnano. Hysterical
What passes for journalism nowadays.

Re: Richard Cantarella testimony notes

by Cheech » Mon Aug 08, 2022 12:09 pm

The writer keeps referring to joe massino as bonnano. Hysterical

Re: Richard Cantarella testimony notes

by Wiseguy » Mon Aug 08, 2022 11:11 am

Cantarella article with pics

https://archive.ph/zJfO5#selection-487.0-487.10

Re: Richard Cantarella testimony notes

by Pogo The Clown » Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:38 am

SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:02 pm or that immediately post having an FBI agent into his crew who he proposed for membership, and after the three Capo's hit, he would make a play for the family leadership,

Napolitano was making his power play before Pistone was outted as a Fed. Pistone quotes Ruggiero as saying that Napolitsno was "beefing" with Massino and that he was making a play to become Consigliere. So he would have been on Massino's hit list regardless of Pistone.


Pogo

Re: Richard Cantarella testimony notes

by axx » Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:36 am

Lefty also mentioned that Mirra was a stoolpigeon.

Re: Richard Cantarella testimony notes

by SonnyBlackstein » Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:19 am

thekiduknow wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:39 am For what it’s worth, Massino also testified that Mirra was killed because he was suspected of being a DEA informant, which is what Cantarella was told.
Correct. This is what Massino testified. Amazing coincidence the three guys who brought in Pistone, two get clipped and one a contract on his head, all unrelated to Pistone, immediatley after.

Anyway, as I said, do not want to derail.

Re: Richard Cantarella testimony notes

by thekiduknow » Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:39 am

For what it’s worth, Massino also testified that Mirra was killed because he was suspected of being a DEA informant, which is what Cantarella was told.

Re: Richard Cantarella testimony notes

by SonnyBlackstein » Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:02 pm

Great thread.

Good contributions by all. B, outstanding, par for the course with you.

One small note regards Napolitano: Why was he killed? Either we believe he was clipped due letting an FBI agent into his crew, the first in the mafia, and as a result there was a hit placed on Ruggerio's life, confirmed, and Mirra clipped.... or that immediately post having an FBI agent into his crew who he proposed for membership, and after the three Capo's hit, he would make a play for the family leadership, and in doing so, would go unarmed to a meeting in a basement, whilst making a power play.
Thats the ridiculous brief, it gets worse with further analysis.

Common sense indicates which is more likely.

But Massino did testify to that, so choose what you will.

Did not intend to derail. Back to Canterella.

Re: Richard Cantarella testimony notes

by B. » Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:27 am

Pistone did but I haven't seen it in an official FBI report or anything.

JD said Napolitano's body was wearing jewelry, including a gold bracelet given to Napolitano by his girlfriend. He also said his hands weren't chopped off, there were just signs that animals and decay had damaged his hands/fingers.

Then Massino testifies that Pistone's infilitration wasn't the reason Napolitano was killed, so almost everything about that murder turned out to be wrong, down to the motive, except him asking his killers to shoot him again and "make it good". There's still that at least.

Re: Richard Cantarella testimony notes

by Antiliar » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:45 pm

B. wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:10 pm Another thing I noticed...

Cantarella told the story about Napolitano giving his jewelry to the bartender before his murder, but JD had the coroner's report and Napolitano had his jewelry on when his body was found. Shows how even someone that knew the killers can end up believing pop culture lore.
Didn't the FBI report that?

Re: Richard Cantarella testimony notes

by B. » Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:10 pm

Another thing I noticed...

Cantarella told the story about Napolitano giving his jewelry to the bartender before his murder, but JD had the coroner's report and Napolitano had his jewelry on when his body was found. Shows how even someone that knew the killers can end up believing pop culture lore.

Re: Richard Cantarella testimony notes

by JeremyTheJew » Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:38 am

B. wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:54 am Lindbloom comes across like someone on coke or adderall, launches into his life story every time the guest manages to get a word in. Still, good for him for putting the interviews together.

Got the impression the Cantarellas don't spend much time reminiscing about the past. Richie seemed sharp enough and what he said matches testimony, so when he said he's forgetting things he might just mean in the last 15+ years he hasn't sat around thinking about ruling panels and all that, so now it's foggy. Paul had trouble remembering their uncle Al Walker's real last name... I don't think this stuff is at the front of their minds these days.

Someone needs to ask Paul more about his belief that the Bonannos were on the verge of war before the indictments hit. Could be dramatizing things but he didn't seem like he was trying to oversell anything else in the interview.
He either does a fat rail....

Or a steroid shot.

Re: Richard Cantarella testimony notes

by Shellackhead » Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:53 pm

desertdog wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:03 am Amazing the amount of backstabbing and deceit these guys have, everyone is lying and conniving constantly.
Especially the Bonannos.

Re: Richard Cantarella testimony notes

by desertdog » Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:03 am

Amazing the amount of backstabbing and deceit these guys have, everyone is lying and conniving constantly.

Re: Richard Cantarella testimony notes

by B. » Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:54 am

Lindbloom comes across like someone on coke or adderall, launches into his life story every time the guest manages to get a word in. Still, good for him for putting the interviews together.

Got the impression the Cantarellas don't spend much time reminiscing about the past. Richie seemed sharp enough and what he said matches testimony, so when he said he's forgetting things he might just mean in the last 15+ years he hasn't sat around thinking about ruling panels and all that, so now it's foggy. Paul had trouble remembering their uncle Al Walker's real last name... I don't think this stuff is at the front of their minds these days.

Someone needs to ask Paul more about his belief that the Bonannos were on the verge of war before the indictments hit. Could be dramatizing things but he didn't seem like he was trying to oversell anything else in the interview.

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