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Re: Apalachin Chart

by nash143 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:42 am

Chris - i've found a better photo of Tornabe.

Re: Apalachin Chart

by FriendofHenry » Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:15 pm

I believe Michael and Kelly waited for John outside.

Re: Apalachin Chart

by Giacomo_Vacari » Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:33 pm

Giuseppe Cotroni, Luigi Greco, and Antonio Sylvestro from Canada we're there. They remained in the house with Carmine Galante, Tommy Lucchese, and Stefano Lasalle till sometime in the middle of the night, then snuck out of the area. There were about a dozen mobsters that remained inside the house. Staties never entered the house, cause they did not have an warrent. Giuseppe Settacase has been mentioned being there but as far as I can tell, he stayed in Sicily due to the winter coming on. It is still a who's who in attendance.

Re: Apalachin Chart

by JCB1977 » Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:39 pm

cavita wrote:
Wiseguy wrote:There is a great chapter on Apalachin the book The Mob And the City by Alexander Hortis. He gives some good info including:

* In depth details on how the meeting was discovered

* A map of where people were caught around the Barbara estate

* A list of the attendees, their positions, how they were caught, etc. He lists 72 in all, including 18 from NYC, 23 from upstate NY, 14 from other parts of the Northeast, 8 from the Midwest, 5 from Western States, and 4 from Southern States.

* Others he says there is "no reliable proof for their attendance" include Milwaukee boss Frank Balistrieri, New England boss Raymond Patriarca, St Louis boss John Vitale, former Boston Boss Philip Buccola, Rockford underboss Joseph Zammuto, Detroit captain Anthony Giacalone, the Cotroni brothers of Montreal, and Giuseppe Settacase of Sicily.

Other suspects determined not to have attended were Bartola Failla of Miami (he was in Jersey for a denaturalization proceeding), Trafficante associate Joe Silesi, Bufalino associate Modesto "Murph" Loquasto (he had been seen operating a craps game in Pittston on the evening of November 14, 1957), and Bufalino associate William Medico (the FBI only were able to identify an earlier summer trip to Apalachin).
In my research on this I have found a couple different FBI files that state Rockford boss Antonio Musso asked Frank Zito of Springfield, Illinois to attend and represent their interests, which he did. Zito was brother to Rockford consigliere Joe Zito. I have also tried and tried to track down evidence of Balistrieri's attendance or at least someone attending on his behalf but have failed to do so as yet as well as Carlo Caputo, boss of Madison, Wisconsin.
I wonder if Carlo Caputo was related to Donald "Moosey" Caputo from Youngstown?

Re: Apalachin Chart

by cavita » Sat Jul 11, 2015 7:11 am

Wiseguy wrote:There is a great chapter on Apalachin the book The Mob And the City by Alexander Hortis. He gives some good info including:

* In depth details on how the meeting was discovered

* A map of where people were caught around the Barbara estate

* A list of the attendees, their positions, how they were caught, etc. He lists 72 in all, including 18 from NYC, 23 from upstate NY, 14 from other parts of the Northeast, 8 from the Midwest, 5 from Western States, and 4 from Southern States.

* Others he says there is "no reliable proof for their attendance" include Milwaukee boss Frank Balistrieri, New England boss Raymond Patriarca, St Louis boss John Vitale, former Boston Boss Philip Buccola, Rockford underboss Joseph Zammuto, Detroit captain Anthony Giacalone, the Cotroni brothers of Montreal, and Giuseppe Settacase of Sicily.

Other suspects determined not to have attended were Bartola Failla of Miami (he was in Jersey for a denaturalization proceeding), Trafficante associate Joe Silesi, Bufalino associate Modesto "Murph" Loquasto (he had been seen operating a craps game in Pittston on the evening of November 14, 1957), and Bufalino associate William Medico (the FBI only were able to identify an earlier summer trip to Apalachin).
In my research on this I have found a couple different FBI files that state Rockford boss Antonio Musso asked Frank Zito of Springfield, Illinois to attend and represent their interests, which he did. Zito was brother to Rockford consigliere Joe Zito. I have also tried and tried to track down evidence of Balistrieri's attendance or at least someone attending on his behalf but have failed to do so as yet as well as Carlo Caputo, boss of Madison, Wisconsin.

Re: Apalachin Chart

by B. » Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:01 am

You are absolutely killing it on the chart front.

Re: Apalachin Chart

by Giacomo_Vacari » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:09 pm

It was the Pittsburgh family that made the hotel reservations for Cerrito and Lanza, either it was Frank Adragna or Salvatore Marino. Sal said it was is grandfather who did, while Vito said it was his dad. Depends on who you believe. Nice find those pages Antiliar.

Re: Apalachin Chart

by Antiliar » Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:18 pm

That's true. Alex did a great job in determining who was there and who wasn't.

BTW, Chris, like the change in avatar. Very amusing.

Re: Apalachin Chart

by Wiseguy » Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:13 pm

There is a great chapter on Apalachin the book The Mob And the City by Alexander Hortis. He gives some good info including:

* In depth details on how the meeting was discovered

* A map of where people were caught around the Barbara estate

* A list of the attendees, their positions, how they were caught, etc. He lists 72 in all, including 18 from NYC, 23 from upstate NY, 14 from other parts of the Northeast, 8 from the Midwest, 5 from Western States, and 4 from Southern States.

* Others he says there is "no reliable proof for their attendance" include Milwaukee boss Frank Balistrieri, New England boss Raymond Patriarca, St Louis boss John Vitale, former Boston Boss Philip Buccola, Rockford underboss Joseph Zammuto, Detroit captain Anthony Giacalone, the Cotroni brothers of Montreal, and Giuseppe Settacase of Sicily.

Other suspects determined not to have attended were Bartola Failla of Miami (he was in Jersey for a denaturalization proceeding), Trafficante associate Joe Silesi, Bufalino associate Modesto "Murph" Loquasto (he had been seen operating a craps game in Pittston on the evening of November 14, 1957), and Bufalino associate William Medico (the FBI only were able to identify an earlier summer trip to Apalachin).

Re: Apalachin Chart

by Meatball » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:10 pm

Once again, the Governor knocks it out of the park. Well done, CC. That's a lot of work that does not go unnoticed PR unappreciated.

Re: Apalachin Chart

by Antiliar » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:52 pm

JCB1977 wrote:
Giacomo_Vacari wrote:Antiliar, I heard Cerrito and Lanza was with Frank Garafolo at their motel. Frank had been in Sicily and Joe wanted to see him first before going to the meeting. Joe Chiri was supposed to go with them but got sick, so Salvatore took his place since he had good relations with Buffalo, Detroit, Philadelphia, Bonanno and Profaci families. Vitale was both Galante and Gafafolos driver. Frank said Cammarata was bring Trafficante from Florida, and they just arrived the night before under different names, cause Santo didn't trust Barbara Jr. with the reservations being made, and was wondering what Magaddino was up to. That is what I was told.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 0Apalachin

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 0Apalachin
Those links were about Lanza, but didn't seen anything about "SF Salvatore Maugeri, SJ Salvatore Vassallo, Bonanno soldier Michaelangelo Vitale, and Profaci member Emanuel Cammarata." Giacomo Vacari might be correct on what he wrote, I just wanted to see links or sources for those names since I had not seen them mentioned being there in other reports.

Re: Apalachin Chart

by DoubleZ » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:43 pm

Hey CC, great chart!

Unless I missed it, I don't see Joe Zerilli, Detroit Boss, and Anthony "Tony Jack" Giacalone, soldier at the time, on the chart, or at least on the suspected chart.

Never heard Pete Licavoli attending, but since he controlled rackets out in Tucson for Detroit, that would make sense. Joe Barbara Jr. I think transferred to the Detroit family at this point, but I could be wrong.

Again great chart.

Re: Apalachin Chart

by JCB1977 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:59 am

Chris Christie wrote:Image
http://s29.postimg.org/5l4pqs5at/apalachin57.jpg

Can anyone help me with:

-Emilio Buttoni
-Sal Tornabe
-Angelo Licavoli
-John Colletti (Dallas)
-Charles Montana (Cleveland)
-Al Angelicola
-Giuseppe Settacase (Sicily)
Here is the best photo I have on John C Montana at the 1958 Senate Hearings

Image

Re: Apalachin Chart

by JCB1977 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:56 am

Giacomo_Vacari wrote:Antiliar, I heard Cerrito and Lanza was with Frank Garafolo at their motel. Frank had been in Sicily and Joe wanted to see him first before going to the meeting. Joe Chiri was supposed to go with them but got sick, so Salvatore took his place since he had good relations with Buffalo, Detroit, Philadelphia, Bonanno and Profaci families. Vitale was both Galante and Gafafolos driver. Frank said Cammarata was bring Trafficante from Florida, and they just arrived the night before under different names, cause Santo didn't trust Barbara Jr. with the reservations being made, and was wondering what Magaddino was up to. That is what I was told.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 0Apalachin

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 0Apalachin

Re: Apalachin Chart

by Giacomo_Vacari » Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:04 pm

Antiliar, I heard Cerrito and Lanza was with Frank Garafolo at their motel. Frank had been in Sicily and Joe wanted to see him first before going to the meeting. Joe Chiri was supposed to go with them but got sick, so Salvatore took his place since he had good relations with Buffalo, Detroit, Philadelphia, Bonanno and Profaci families. Vitale was both Galante and Gafafolos driver. Frank said Cammarata was bring Trafficante from Florida, and they just arrived the night before under different names, cause Santo didn't trust Barbara Jr. with the reservations being made, and was wondering what Magaddino was up to. That is what I was told.

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