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Re: Joaquin Garcia and the Gambinos

by gohnjotti » Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:58 pm

It could 100% be true considering Angelo Spata’s father was considered for induction in 2009 after he was being shaken down by the Gambinos at some of the feasts that the Colombos didn’t control.

Re: Joaquin Garcia and the Gambinos

by Bklyn21 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:47 am

johnny_scootch wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:11 am
Bklyn21 wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:23 am And SUPPOSEDLY the reason For the Azzarelli induction if true ? Was because he was being approached by people from the Gambinos and trying to have him come on board and put on record with the Gams for protection and the weakening of the Colombos even further and was being offered a better deal and more opportunities so the Colombos proposed him and inducted him quickly to end all the encroachment etc..
This reason doesn’t make sense to me because you can’t just switch families like that. John would have had to get released by the Colombo’s to go over to the Gambino fam. He’s been with the Colombo’s for a very long time and they’ve made a lot of money with him so I don’t see them just letting the Gambino’s poach him like that. And just because the Gambino’s are stronger doesn’t mean they can take associates away from other families at will. Maybe there’s more to the story but honestly he earns and he’s been around a long time so they don’t need anymore reasons than those to straighten him out.
I don't know the whole story ? There's obviously more most of the time , Nothing's what it seems usually , It sounded like the other HB story about that Gambino associate getting beaten by Giallanzo so they inducted him to stop the beatings , Harassment etc..We know some of the history of the disputes between the Gambinos and Colombos in Bensonhurst and the surrounding areas over the years involving Spata, And the stabbing incident where Andy Mush told them they should of retaliated before a sit down and trying to extort payments for the attack and hospital bills etc. Among a few other interactions. So who knows with Azzarelli or the whole story behind it all

Re: Joaquin Garcia and the Gambinos

by johnny_scootch » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:11 am

Bklyn21 wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:23 am And SUPPOSEDLY the reason For the Azzarelli induction if true ? Was because he was being approached by people from the Gambinos and trying to have him come on board and put on record with the Gams for protection and the weakening of the Colombos even further and was being offered a better deal and more opportunities so the Colombos proposed him and inducted him quickly to end all the encroachment etc..
This reason doesn’t make sense to me because you can’t just switch families like that. John would have had to get released by the Colombo’s to go over to the Gambino fam. He’s been with the Colombo’s for a very long time and they’ve made a lot of money with him so I don’t see them just letting the Gambino’s poach him like that. And just because the Gambino’s are stronger doesn’t mean they can take associates away from other families at will. Maybe there’s more to the story but honestly he earns and he’s been around a long time so they don’t need anymore reasons than those to straighten him out.

Re: Joaquin Garcia and the Gambinos

by West Coast1 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:19 pm

Stroccos wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:13 pm
Targenmantarian wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:38 pm Yeah.

I mean look at who becomes Capos or bosses now.

It's guys who were scrubs in the 70s or 80s at points. Not world stopping earners or killers.

Their main attribute is that they survived and were available.

half of these guys are brokesters living with there moms
You are talking about bosses and capos etc. imagine who the soldiers are. Holy crap.

Re: Joaquin Garcia and the Gambinos

by Stroccos » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:13 pm

Targenmantarian wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:38 pm Yeah.

I mean look at who becomes Capos or bosses now.

It's guys who were scrubs in the 70s or 80s at points. Not world stopping earners or killers.

Their main attribute is that they survived and were available.
half of these guys are brokesters living with there moms

Re: Joaquin Garcia and the Gambinos

by johnny_scootch » Wed Jan 22, 2020 5:22 pm

gohnjotti wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:04 pm

If Dominic Logozzo is made, that must mean that his brother-in-law/business partner (and Colombo soldier) Craig Marino is still active, at least enough to propose Logozzo for induction (unless Logozzo has another sponsor). Following his 2016 release from prison, it appeared Marino made a full time resettlement to Florida.
He's definitely still active. I've seen him with eating with other made guys a few times at Dolce Vita on Ave N and once at Baci on 3rd ave in Bay Ridge.

Re: Joaquin Garcia and the Gambinos

by Targenmantarian » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:15 pm

gohnjotti wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:30 pm
bronx wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:36 am joe is john's uncle not brother
You’re right, my bad.

I don’t remember Gallo writing that there was any feud or beef between the uncle and nephew. IIRC, John would’ve ended up a Colombo but the family’s books were closed in the 1990s, and he already had a sponsor and future in the Luccheses.
Wasn't his uncle. He hated his dad. And while his dad prolly didn't even get made until after he did...seemed like he didn't want to be around him at all.

(If Gallo can be believed.)

Re: Joaquin Garcia and the Gambinos

by gohnjotti » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:30 pm

bronx wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:36 am joe is john's uncle not brother
You’re right, my bad.

I don’t remember Gallo writing that there was any feud or beef between the uncle and nephew. IIRC, John would’ve ended up a Colombo but the family’s books were closed in the 1990s, and he already had a sponsor and future in the Luccheses.

Re: Joaquin Garcia and the Gambinos

by Targenmantarian » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:38 pm

Yeah.

I mean look at who becomes Capos or bosses now.

It's guys who were scrubs in the 70s or 80s at points. Not world stopping earners or killers.

Their main attribute is that they survived and were available.

Re: Joaquin Garcia and the Gambinos

by Pogo The Clown » Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:16 am

From 1992-2002 just about every Gotti era Capo was imprisoned or died as did several of the guys who replaced them. I suspect that was why guys like Squitieri, Megale and Joe Corozzo got the top spots.


Pogo

Re: Joaquin Garcia and the Gambinos

by Bklyn21 » Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:37 am

Targenmantarian wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:30 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:25 am
Targenmantarian wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:35 am What did Megale do from Connecticut to get upped to underboss? The "Genius" nickname wasn't a compliment. If I remember it was Gotti castigating him for something.

What made him a power House in the early 00s?

I remember reading that it was a move the Gambinos made to decentralize power (Acting Boss from Jersey, Acting UnderBoss from Connecticut and Consigliere from Brooklyn) in an effort to thwart LE. Obviously it didn't work.


Pogo
Crazy that a guy gets the number two slot in a 200+ man family with his main qualification being that he lives in Connecticut.

But more qualified guys probably passed due to the immense heat.
That whole 3 man administration had me scratching my head , Did no one want the positions ? It wasn't the traditional structure , It was like they looked far and wide

Re: Joaquin Garcia and the Gambinos

by Targenmantarian » Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:54 am

According to Gallo he hated his dad so much that he lateraled over to the Lucheses once he started dating Cutaia's daughter.

Re: Joaquin Garcia and the Gambinos

by bronx » Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:36 am

joe is john's uncle not brother

Re: Joaquin Garcia and the Gambinos

by gohnjotti » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:04 pm

Bklyn21 wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:06 am
AntComello wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:37 am
Bklyn21 wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:24 am Going off topic a lil here , Over on McDonald ave. in BK Gravesend etc . There is alot of Albanian activity , Albanian Social clubs , Cafes, And businesses . I dunno if they've taken over some of the street stuff from Gams and Colombos who were historically notorious in the area as there is definitely Italian mob associates, Or Italians in general at these places at times. I've been around these places in passing and definitely hear people speaking both Italian and albanian
Does anyone know who from the Colombo’s is still active around Avenue U area?
I would figure theres Colombos around that area as there's some Clubs/Cafes that were frequented by Colombos . I just heard a rumor/Street talk BS from an older guy who operates a big Auto parts distributorship whos an ex cop that he supposedly knows Johnny cash Azzarelli and friends of his and said Cash was made recently which I have no idea if true or not ? He also said Dominic Logozzo was also recently made and some kid Mike Pimpinella who is in his early 30s were all inducted recently , This person ex cop says he grew up with John Baudanza and said John is also making alot of moves recently and has a nice following of guys in they're 20s which he calls the Bay Pkwy juniors lol...Again don't quote me on any of this as I have no clue if it's True ?? Just your regular Gossip and street talk for whatever its worth
If Dominic Logozzo is made, that must mean that his brother-in-law/business partner (and Colombo soldier) Craig Marino is still active, at least enough to propose Logozzo for induction (unless Logozzo has another sponsor). Following his 2016 release from prison, it appeared Marino made a full time resettlement to Florida. Perhaps Logozzo is overseeing Marino's rackets for the time being. Marino had a lot going on in his heydey, and Logozzo was involved in a lot of legitimate businesses with him, including a golf club.

If John Baudanza is making a lot of moves, I wonder if it's a fully-Lucchese family gig or if there is some crossover with his 72-year-old brother Joseph Baudanza, whose status is unknown since his 2011 release from prison.

Re: Joaquin Garcia and the Gambinos

by Targenmantarian » Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:30 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:25 am
Targenmantarian wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:35 am What did Megale do from Connecticut to get upped to underboss? The "Genius" nickname wasn't a compliment. If I remember it was Gotti castigating him for something.

What made him a power House in the early 00s?

I remember reading that it was a move the Gambinos made to decentralize power (Acting Boss from Jersey, Acting UnderBoss from Connecticut and Consigliere from Brooklyn) in an effort to thwart LE. Obviously it didn't work.


Pogo
Crazy that a guy gets the number two slot in a 200+ man family with his main qualification being that he lives in Connecticut.

But more qualified guys probably passed due to the immense heat.

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