THE BLACK HAND FORUM

Chris Christie wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:19 am

JIGGS wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:13 pm

baldo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:36 pm Ask yourself this. How many 20-30 year olds do u know (whether in the mob or not) are walking around in three piece suits and fedoras listening to Sinatra these days? People are overall more casual these days. Considering these guys don’t really have 9-5 office jobs they are going to be very casual. Hell I work for a bank but the first thing I do when I get home is put on sweats .

You know who started that shit? The transition from a suit and tie, trench coat and fedora, black shoes, dress slacks, cuffed sleeves, pocket hanky, over to a fucking tee shirt, baggy jeans and sneakers? The Count. John Digilio. I once saw him at a open air concert uptown where he was sitting on a bench and he was dressed in shorts and some flowery looking Hawaiian short sleeve shirt. It was september! Had the scraggly stache, hairy patches on his cheeks and a mullet before it became hip. he looked like a fucking hippie man. All the guys around that era Prisco and them all followed the same look. Real hoods. Stickball kids dress like that. With the open shirt and the chains. I tell ya it all turned to shit once adonis got deported. That piece a shit charlie salzano? One time I seen him wearing this nice alpaca sweater, leather kangol like the mulinyan wore back then, and hes contrasting it with jeans and a pair of pro keds. No shit! Fucking loser. Hes burning in hell just for that. And just so you know for the historical record that was'nt no diversion tactic neither. To throw the federales off the stench. They just had no class or knew fashion from what. Fuck em.

JIGGS

There's been an entire change in culture. Families used to get dressed up on Saturdays go out, now we're lucky if they don't go out wearing pajama pants.

eboli wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:43 am A few months ago I did the math on the average age of the confirmed Genovese members and it was 67.2. Of course there are made members who are unknown to us, but the average wiseguy in 2019 seems to be a senior citizen.

JIGGS wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:13 pm

baldo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:36 pm Ask yourself this. How many 20-30 year olds do u know (whether in the mob or not) are walking around in three piece suits and fedoras listening to Sinatra these days? People are overall more casual these days. Considering these guys don’t really have 9-5 office jobs they are going to be very casual. Hell I work for a bank but the first thing I do when I get home is put on sweats .

You know who started that shit? The transition from a suit and tie, trench coat and fedora, black shoes, dress slacks, cuffed sleeves, pocket hanky, over to a fucking tee shirt, baggy jeans and sneakers? The Count. John Digilio. I once saw him at a open air concert uptown where he was sitting on a bench and he was dressed in shorts and some flowery looking Hawaiian short sleeve shirt. It was september! Had the scraggly stache, hairy patches on his cheeks and a mullet before it became hip. he looked like a fucking hippie man. All the guys around that era Prisco and them all followed the same look. Real hoods. Stickball kids dress like that. With the open shirt and the chains. I tell ya it all turned to shit once adonis got deported. That piece a shit charlie salzano? One time I seen him wearing this nice alpaca sweater, leather kangol like the mulinyan wore back then, and hes contrasting it with jeans and a pair of pro keds. No shit! Fucking loser. Hes burning in hell just for that. And just so you know for the historical record that was'nt no diversion tactic neither. To throw the federales off the stench. They just had no class or knew fashion from what. Fuck em.

JIGGS

Pete wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:23 pm

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:21 pm Look at survellance pics of mob guys. Sure, sometimes tracksuits and hoodies. But more often slacks or jeans and a shirt. Noticeable tattoos seem relatively rare but more common than earrings. I can't think of another example besides Lucibello in one photo.

The average mob member is in his 60s or 70s. I don't think they are listening to rap.

I disagree most of the surveillance I see shows tracksuits and hoodys. Even Nicky corozzo was wearing a tracksuit when he turned himself in. The photos showing nicer clothes are older pictures. Where do you get that the average mob guy is in their 60’s or 70’s? There are a ton of guys in their 40’s and 50’s I don’t see how the average would be 60’s or 70’s. Did you do an actual calculation or you just throwing out numbers? And actually many have tattoos even John gotti had a tattoo

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:21 pm Look at survellance pics of mob guys. Sure, sometimes tracksuits and hoodies. But more often slacks or jeans and a shirt. Noticeable tattoos seem relatively rare but more common than earrings. I can't think of another example besides Lucibello in one photo.

The average mob member is in his 60s or 70s. I don't think they are listening to rap.

Wiseguy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:13 pm

Dias wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:14 pm Suits for everyday use is a thing of the past, yes.

What I wanted to speculate with you guys was the direction of the members and associates of today. The younger generation of LCN probably are between 20 and 30, and I suppose that they were very influenced by whatever influences people growing up (TV, movies, music, etc). The trend nowadays, especially for crooks, is being all tatted up, earrings, etc as I stated in the original post.

The difference between the guys from 1950 - 1980 to the guys of the 90s is clear (per example). So I guess that it would be normal to start to see wiseguys, although probably still unknown, similar to these lame rap artists and instagram personalities.

If you're talking made guys, the "younger generation" is going to be more like 30s and 40s.

Dias wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:14 pm Suits for everyday use is a thing of the past, yes.

What I wanted to speculate with you guys was the direction of the members and associates of today. The younger generation of LCN probably are between 20 and 30, and I suppose that they were very influenced by whatever influences people growing up (TV, movies, music, etc). The trend nowadays, especially for crooks, is being all tatted up, earrings, etc as I stated in the original post.

The difference between the guys from 1950 - 1980 to the guys of the 90s is clear (per example). So I guess that it would be normal to start to see wiseguys, although probably still unknown, similar to these lame rap artists and instagram personalities.

Dias wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:42 pm
that's why I am asking! because all the 20 or 30 years old guys that I know have a very different mindset.