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Re: Unsolved Possible DeCavalcante Mob Hit in Jersey

by Pogo The Clown » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:38 am

They all took plea deals if I remember correctly. They have since been released.


Pogo

Re: Unsolved Possible DeCavalcante Mob Hit in Jersey

by Dwalin2014 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:31 pm

A question about the DeCavalcante family, sorry if it's slightly off-topic:

Concerning Abramo and other DeCavalcante members (Stefano Vitabile, Giuseppe Schifilliti etc), convicted in 2003 in the racketeering conspiracy centered around the D'Amato, LaRasso and other murders; I read their life sentences were overturned in 2008 and a new trial was ordered, but did this new trial ever take place at all? Are they currently all free?

Re: Unsolved Possible DeCavalcante Mob Hit in Jersey

by gohnjotti » Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:18 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:28 pm
Adam wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:45 pm One of the several things from the book "Made Men" that annoyed me was the author labeling Frank D'Amato as a "veteran capo" in 1999.

Yeah unfortunately there were a lot of silly mistakes like that in the book. I was really disappointed with that book when I first got it.


As for this hit I doubt the DeCavalcantes or Colombos were involved considering how both families would be plagued by rats in the following years and nothing has come out on them being responsible.


Pogo
Exactly. For the Colombos, court testimony has Tommy Gioeli's crew as being the only guys in the family committing hits for Allie Persico and the late 1990s/early 2000s administration. They were the go-to. The only hit that wasn't linked to them was the embarrassing, botched drive-by of Joe Campanella in 2001, although Giovanni Floridia (the wheelman) even testified that Allie Persico and Jackie DeRoss wanted to wait until the Long Island Guys (GIoeli's crew) were ready, and Calabro testified that he was tasked with the Campanella hit until Vincent DeMartino went ahead and did it himself.

Re: Unsolved Possible DeCavalcante Mob Hit in Jersey

by NJShore4Life » Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:17 pm

Abramo was heavily involved in Stock fraud at that time period, he could have done it on the sneak to protect his stock fraud rackets. Just saying no one knows what happened and we may never know

Re: Unsolved Possible DeCavalcante Mob Hit in Jersey

by Pogo The Clown » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:28 pm

Adam wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:45 pm One of the several things from the book "Made Men" that annoyed me was the author labeling Frank D'Amato as a "veteran capo" in 1999.

Yeah unfortunately there were a lot of silly mistakes like that in the book. I was really disappointed with that book when I first got it.


As for this hit I doubt the DeCavalcantes or Colombos were involved considering how both families would be plagued by rats in the following years and nothing has come out on them being responsible.


Pogo

Re: Unsolved Possible DeCavalcante Mob Hit in Jersey

by Boston+matt14 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:24 pm

There's an article from the Wall Street Journal back in 1999 that strongly implies the involvement of Russian gangster brothers Boris and Michael Vax. This is probably the most likely scenario because you'd have to figure if the DeCavs had been involved that somebody connected to them would have flipped by now. Both Vax brothers are still alive, btw, and have been charged with numerous other crimes over the years but always seem to escape with minimal sentences.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB941238979135206505.

Re: Unsolved Possible DeCavalcante Mob Hit in Jersey

by NJShore4Life » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:06 pm

This hit and the Langano hit seem almost unsolvable that have happened in the past twenty years here in Jersey. I’m almost convinced Bergen County Law Enforcement is the reason why Langano got clipped. Go Devils

Re: Unsolved Possible DeCavalcante Mob Hit in Jersey

by Adam » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:45 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:30 pm
slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:31 pm Anyone know whos in Abramo’s crew?

In 1999 his crew members were Louis "Louie Eggs" Consalvo, Gregory Rago and possibly Gaetano “Guy” Alessi. Plus Frank D'Amato as a proposed member. It wasn't a very large crew even by DeCavalcante standards. It is unkown if he is still a Capo or even active.


Pogo
One of the several things from the book "Made Men" that annoyed me was the author labeling Frank D'Amato as a "veteran capo" in 1999.

Re: Unsolved Possible DeCavalcante Mob Hit in Jersey

by Rocco » Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:19 am

it came out that Chalem was working with the fbi when he died. he was tied to Abramo and also a Russian guy from Brooklyn named Michael Vax. I don't think this will ever be solved. I think we have a better chance of the Langano hit being solved when someone flips

Re: Unsolved Possible DeCavalcante Mob Hit in Jersey

by slimshady_007 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:03 am

Only way i see the case being solved is if someone flips. It’s a pretty tough case since there’s so many suspects. (Russians, Colombos, DeCavalcantes)

Re: Unsolved Possible DeCavalcante Mob Hit in Jersey

by NJShore4Life » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:09 pm

https://www.nj.com/crime/2019/10/they-w ... olved.html

Re: Unsolved Possible DeCavalcante Mob Hit in Jersey

by Pogo The Clown » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:30 pm

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:31 pm Anyone know whos in Abramo’s crew?

In 1999 his crew members were Louis "Louie Eggs" Consalvo, Gregory Rago and possibly Gaetano “Guy” Alessi. Plus Frank D'Amato as a proposed member. It wasn't a very large crew even by DeCavalcante standards. It is unkown if he is still a Capo or even active.


Pogo

Re: Unsolved Possible DeCavalcante Mob Hit in Jersey

by slimshady_007 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:31 pm

Anyone know whos in Abramo’s crew?

Re: Unsolved Possible DeCavalcante Mob Hit in Jersey

by Rocco » Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:13 pm

slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:21 pm
Rocco wrote: ↑Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:23 am
slimshady_007 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:07 pm
NJShore4Life wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:29 pm Talk is that Philip Abramo of DeCavalcantes ordered the hit.
Then how wasn’t the hit solved? Then acting boss vinny palermo must’ve given the ok for the hit had the DeCavalcantes done the murders. And vinny became a rat. Did he ever talk about the murders?
Its possible that these murders tied to Abramo were ordered without Vinnys knowledge. There was a panel and its possible he was not privy to in depth info on Abramos rackets. Keep in mind there were murders in the Bahamas tied to Abramos stock rackets as well the not a single Decav was charged in. And then you tie in the Colombos and Russian OC.....
The whole situation is very intriguing. If Abramo ordered the hits in 99, and also ordered the hit in Florida then i’m quite impressed that he managed to duck indictments.
Abramo was pretty respected by a lot of guys in all 5 families because of his money making ability. Kinda like the gas tax. Once other families found out everyone demanded in so they can have a piece of the pie. These murders could have been committed by crews from different families.etc Many different parties could have clipped people to minimize the damage. Who really knows Abramo's hand in these murders. His stock racket interests more then likely were much more vast then what was in the indictment since he had been at if for so long. These people could have been silenced for having knowledge about other crimes that were not listed in the indictments.etc.

What about Andy? REMO: Why take a chance?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka7hSZhgplk

Re: Unsolved Possible DeCavalcante Mob Hit in Jersey

by chubby » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:02 am

SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:07 pm
chubby wrote: ↑Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:57 am I always just heard this has a Russian angle. But now reading more into it and you guys mentioning the abramo angle is very interesting and to me makes a lot of sense... I mean abramo was huge on the stock game. So that theory definitely holds weight..

What’s the connection with the Colombos??? I’m always interested when I hear jersey and Colombo’s together since they’re the family that literally has never had any serious control in Jersey. But I know just cause the guys got hit in jersey doesn’t mean it had to do with jersey shit.
Here are the three passages from the article that mention Persico, Abramo, and the Russians. Take your pick...

A Business Week article in December of 1999, citing unnamed sources, said Chalem was a key link between the penny stock trade and organized crime. The article said Chalem was a close associate of Philip C. Abramo, a reputed capo in the Newark-based DeCavalcante crime family who at the time was implicated in a stock fraud case.

The Huffington Post reported in 2011 that Chalem had been partners in a Key West, Florida, scuba-diving business with Brooklyn mobster Alphonse Persico, who is serving life in prison for the 1999 rubout of an underboss. That article said the DeCavalcante crime family was suspected in the Colts Neck slayings early on.

Court documents have revealed that investigators also were looking at the pair's links to Russian gangsters.
Damn man thanks for posting that... this shits got a lot more angles and is more complicated that I ever expected... guy had dealings with abramo and little Allie boy... I’m not too informed on abramos history doing or ordering work... but I know Allie boy sure wasn’t afraid to do work, and sure as fuck wasn’t shy about ordering hits... crazy no informant has come out with any info on this double murder. More I read the more I feel like it is 100 percent mafia related..

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