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Re: The Philly Piccolos

by B. » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:11 am

Bumping this because it has some lesser known info on Scarfo (though mainly about the Piccolos) and most info on him after his passing is the typical "short Hollywood psychopathic reign of terror" stuff.

Re: The Philly Piccolos

by B. » Wed May 20, 2015 8:16 am

You also have to figure if these guys are trying to look like legitimate businessmen, they would call the cops for things like that. In Piccolo's case, a man (may have been a ****###) broke into his place of business, so he just did what any business owner would do.

Re: The Philly Piccolos

by toto » Wed May 20, 2015 6:22 am

Pogo The Clown wrote:
toto wrote:According to Buscetta in Sicily they changed the rules to allow calling the cops if your car was stolen.

Gotta love these self serving rules. :lol:


Pogo
He said the reason was to protect themselves from investigation in case the car was involved in an accident or used in a crime.

Re: The Philly Piccolos

by Pogo The Clown » Wed May 20, 2015 5:11 am

toto wrote:According to Buscetta in Sicily they changed the rules to allow calling the cops if your car was stolen.

Gotta love these self serving rules. :lol:


Pogo

Re: The Philly Piccolos

by toto » Wed May 20, 2015 5:03 am

According to Buscetta in Sicily they changed the rules to allow calling the cops if your car was stolen.

Re: The Philly Piccolos

by B. » Tue May 19, 2015 2:29 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote:According to Lenehan, Nicholas "Turk" Cifelli once called the cops to break up a fight (I think it was a fight) and that put the kaboosh on him getting made for several years. He was of course later made in that Feselone ceremony.


Pogo
Yeah, I'd actually take his word on that kind of stuff. Not who the Genovese hierarchy was in 1974, but little things that went around those NJ neighborhoods. It would make some sense as Cifelli was an associate for many years and didn't get made until he was quite a bit older.

Re: The Philly Piccolos

by Pogo The Clown » Tue May 19, 2015 2:11 pm

According to Lenehan, Nicholas "Turk" Cifelli once called the cops to break up a fight (I think it was a fight) and that put the kaboosh on him getting made for several years. He was of course later made in that Freselone ceremony.


Pogo

Re: The Philly Piccolos

by B. » Tue May 19, 2015 1:52 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote:Lefty Ruggiero filed a police report when his rental car was stolen (really repossed by the Feds).


Pogo
It's probably just another myth that members aren't allowed to call the cops, or if they do, they keep it to themselves.

Re: The Philly Piccolos

by Pogo The Clown » Tue May 19, 2015 12:25 pm

Lefty Ruggiero filed a police report when his rental car was stolen (really repossed by the Feds).


Pogo

Re: The Philly Piccolos

by rayray » Mon May 18, 2015 6:42 pm

Maybe the police he called were friends and not police police.

Re: The Philly Piccolos

by B. » Mon May 18, 2015 2:56 pm

It has always been said that the mob has a rule against members and associates calling the police for any reason, but in the early 1950s Nick Piccolo called the police to report a burglar at Piccolo's 500 Club. The burglar was arrested by police. Several years later Piccolo would be promoted to capo, so it didn't affect his standing in the organization.

Re: The Philly Piccolos

by B. » Thu May 07, 2015 9:37 am

Pogo The Clown wrote:
B. wrote:One of those things that still bugs me are the five guys who Lulu Esposito proposed in the mid 60's who got vetoed for being too young.

Were you ever able to find a relation between this Eposito and the later Esposito's (Raymond and Eric) that were made?


Pogo
I haven't been able to find a link between any of them. My gut feeling is that there is a relation somewhere between at least a couple of them but not direct i.e. father/son, grandson, uncle/nephew or anything.

Lulu Esposito was never more than a soldier but was one of the more active guys in his day. Had a lot going on and seems to have had a lot of clout for a soldier.

Re: The Philly Piccolos

by Pogo The Clown » Thu May 07, 2015 8:48 am

B. wrote:One of those things that still bugs me are the five guys who Lulu Esposito proposed in the mid 60's who got vetoed for being too young.

Were you ever able to find a relation between this Eposito and the later Esposito's (Raymond and Eric) that were made?


Pogo

Re: The Philly Piccolos

by B. » Wed May 06, 2015 8:38 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote:I have Frank Sindone as being made in 1969 with his sponsor being Angelo Bruno himself. Snuffy Iannarella was also made in that ceremony with Phil Testa as his sponsor. I believe you discovered this info B.


Thanks for the extra murders guy's. So that is at least 14 sanctioned murders in a 20 year period. So yeah the Gentle Don stuff is crap. Bruno was just as violent as Scarfo though he seemed a bit more selective about who got killed. Looks like Philly has always been the most violent family from the 60s onwards.


Pogo
Ahhh, thanks for remembering that. I had 1969 in my head but was second guessing myself.

One of those things that still bugs me are the five guys who Lulu Esposito proposed in the mid 60's who got vetoed for being too young. What is "too young" for a family that habitually made guys in their early-to-mid 20's (and younger in the old days)? And were they guys that we would know later? By the way, I'm thinking

As for hits, I would bet there are at least a few more from the 60's and 70's that are overlooked or unreported. They had associates all over the place and someone was bound to have pushed the wrong buttons.

Re: The Philly Piccolos

by Pogo The Clown » Wed May 06, 2015 8:00 pm

OK going over it in my head these are the number of hits I've got from 2000-present.


Philly - 5
Genovese - 3 or 4
Bonanno - 3 (Not counting anything from Montreal which may or may not be connected to them)
Gambino - I believe 2
Lucchese - 2 (One of them unsanctioned)
Colombo - 0 (One attempted murder)
Chicago - 2


Any additions or corrections welcome.


Pogo

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