Other than list of guys who have been made we have no current info on this family. No leadership charts . Nothing
Is this family still operating or is there just a few guys doing there own thing. ?? Is there a formal structure with money flowing up ?? And if so does anyone have any accurate info of who is boss, underboss captains ..?
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Yes they are still operating and in decent shape to be 2015. The power is in Boston today it seems with Limone or the DiNunzio's in power or all 3. There are rumors with Baby Shacks about to be off parole restrictions but I just don't see it. Like others, I think he'll be back in Florida once Rhode Island releases him for good.
Matty Gugs who knows. I doubt he would want to be a nobody after spending his bid, so who knows where he stands as well, but Federal Hill is not where the power is anymore.
Matty Gugs who knows. I doubt he would want to be a nobody after spending his bid, so who knows where he stands as well, but Federal Hill is not where the power is anymore.
If I didn't have my case coming up, I would like to come back with you gentlemen when this is over with and really lay the law down what is going on in this country.....
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Joseph Achille was identified as a captain in 2005 and 2009. Anthony St. Laurent was indicted as a captain in 2009 and 2010. Mark Rossetti was indicted as a captain in 2010. Carmen DiNunzio was indicted as the underboss in 2006 and 2008. Luigi Manocchio was indicted as the former boss, Anthony DiNunzio was indicted as acting boss (he had been a captain previously), and Eddie Lato was indicted as a captain in 2006 and 2011. Anthony Spagnolo was indicted as acting boss last year.
Now, is there currently enough info to make a nice chart of the hierarchy? Maybe not. But the family is still there as shown by continuing cases in recent years and it still has 40-50 total members. It is still acknowledged by the feds as being present and active, though weakened - especially in Providence as of late.
Now, is there currently enough info to make a nice chart of the hierarchy? Maybe not. But the family is still there as shown by continuing cases in recent years and it still has 40-50 total members. It is still acknowledged by the feds as being present and active, though weakened - especially in Providence as of late.
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The lack of current info here makes me believe this family is just about done . Was with someone over the weekend who has a little bit of street info and he said there a couple of little crews in Boston who do there own thing. They don't really interact at all unless there is a problem. As far as a formal hierarchy he said he was unaware of there being one at this time
He agreed there is enough guys around to regroup just slot of the old guys don't want the heat and headaches . It's easy to work in small pockets and just grind out a living
He agreed there is enough guys around to regroup just slot of the old guys don't want the heat and headaches . It's easy to work in small pockets and just grind out a living
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It's always over until the next indictment comes out showing it is not.
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I've been proven wrong several times on this family. Age & attrition is catching up in regards to the old timers...my question is: Who is the future of this family? Carmen IMO will eventually take the reigns...I did get some recent info from a good friend of mine whose son is close to Limone's grandson and I was told PL has the beginning stages of dementia.
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Lack of current info? Have you bothered to look at the list of recent cases involving the New England mob? There are plenty of them. It's one of the small families remaining but it's still there.Eddie mush wrote:The lack of current info here makes me believe this family is just about done . Was with someone over the weekend who has a little bit of street info and he said there a couple of little crews in Boston who do there own thing. They don't really interact at all unless there is a problem. As far as a formal hierarchy he said he was unaware of there being one at this time
He agreed there is enough guys around to regroup just slot of the old guys don't want the heat and headaches . It's easy to work in small pockets and just grind out a living
Yep. If I had a dollar for every time somebody said "It's over..."Pogo The Clown wrote:It's always over until the next indictment comes out showing it is not.
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That's too bad for Limone if true. Bad guy or not, 30 plus years for something you didn't do, and now this. That's a bad deal.JCB1977 wrote:I've been proven wrong several times on this family. Age & attrition is catching up in regards to the old timers...my question is: Who is the future of this family? Carmen IMO will eventually take the reigns...I did get some recent info from a good friend of mine whose son is close to Limone's grandson and I was told PL has the beginning stages of dementia.
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Wiseguy wrote:Lack of current info? Have you bothered to look at the list of recent cases involving the New England mob? There are plenty of them. It's one of the small families remaining but it's still there.Eddie mush wrote:The lack of current info here makes me believe this family is just about done . Was with someone over the weekend who has a little bit of street info and he said there a couple of little crews in Boston who do there own thing. They don't really interact at all unless there is a problem. As far as a formal hierarchy he said he was unaware of there being one at this time
He agreed there is enough guys around to regroup just slot of the old guys don't want the heat and headaches . It's easy to work in small pockets and just grind out a living
Pogo The Clown wrote:It's always over until the next indictment comes out showing it is not.
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Yep. If I had a dollar for every time somebody said "It's over..."
Cases don't necessarily mean they are existing in a traditional LcN pyramid . My source did say different groups of guys working together . That would also cause indictments without crews interacting with each other
I am not saying it's over I really don't know. I was just telling you guys want I heard heard
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Well, cases demonstrate there is ongoing criminal activity. As far as a "traditional LCN pyramid" or structure, we've seen guys from various levels get busted in recent years - acting bosses, captains, soldiers, associates. That certainly suggests there is still a hierarchy in place, even if we can't create it here on the forums with the info we have.Eddie mush wrote:Cases don't necessarily mean they are existing in a traditional LcN pyramid . My source did say different groups of guys working together . That would also cause indictments without crews interacting with each other
I am not saying it's over I really don't know. I was just telling you guys want I heard heard
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Someone mentioned on GangsterBB that Marino and Scarpelli got their buttons recently. So there appears to be some sort of organization going there, especially with the Cheeseman there.
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How come this family got spread out over several places instead of being primarily based in just one city, like the other families? It is possible that in the early days there were several smaller families in New England that merged into one? I've always found this family the odd duck for being based in multiple cities.
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The Patriarca Papers - FBI Files of the Boss of the New England Crime Family
GoLocalWorcester News Team
July 27, 2015
Raymond Patriarca ruled New England organized crime for nearly fifty years. The Worcester-born crime boss moved to Providence as a boy, but married a woman from Worcester and controlled organized crime in the City for decades.
For the past year, GoLocal reporters and editors have been working to gain access to the Federal Bureau of Investigation's (FBI) file for one of America’s most infamous criminals and one of Rhode Island’s notorious favorite sons - Raymond Patriarca.
Launching on August 3, 2015 and continuing over the next few months, GoLocal will be releasing the FBI files in segments - with expert insights and related documents - each Monday. This weekly series is being called, “The Patriarca Papers.”
From the 1940's to the 1990's, New England organized crime was led by Patriarca (who died in 1984), and then by his son Raymond “Junior” Patriarca.
Patriarca not only dominated New England, but by many accounts was one of the most influential criminals in America. There has long been an urban myth that Patriarca was the foundation for Don Corleone's character in Mario Puzo’s “The Godfather" - and after reading this dossier on Patriarca, the event and characters often seem remarkably similar.
"I first met Raymond when he was held on 'accessory to murder' charges in 1981 but as a result of a heart ailment, he was admitted to Miriam Hospital. I spent a night or two with him at the hospital. The manner in which he carried himself and his mere presence was that of an old school mobster. He exuded confidence," said Brendan Doherty, former Superintendent of the Rhode Island State Police.
FBI files unveil hundreds of connections, alleged crimes and business partners of Patriarca that have never been disclosed before in such detail. The Patriarca Papers are a tour of New England, and these files bring forward alleged connections to high level politicians, a tie into one of New England’s favorite amusement parks, and linkage to one of the region’s biggest bankers, to name just a few of the elements in the files.
The FBI materials begin in 1954 and continue into the 1980’s, and these files tell such tales as paying off an aide to the Governor of Massachusetts to get pardoned, Patriarca's involvement in a prison break that lead to two prison officials being murdered, and his early days of violence.
The stories about Raymond Patriarca range from condemnation about his violence to praise for his commitment to the Federal Hill neighborhood.
"I did meet him (Patriarca), when I was campaigning on Federal Hill," said Arlene Violet, former Rhode Island Attorney General, in an interview with GoLocal. "I don’t know if he stepped out of his office because he knew I was on the hill, but I literally almost bumped into him."
'Hiya, Sister' he said," continued Violet. "You’re no brother,' I responded."
Nearly 10,000 Pages
Starting in 2014, GoLocal began the process of securing nearly 10,000 pages of FBI documents. In May of 2015, the FBI approved GoLocal’s request for the files and transferred hundreds of individual files containing nearly ten thousand pages of FBI memos and official bureau documents. Correspondingly, hundreds of pages were withheld by the FBI.
On many pages, some information has been redacted by the Bureau. Names of those interviewed, the identity of some of the FBI’s Special Agents (SA), and other information has been blocked out. However, in the preparation of the presentation of The Patriarca Papers, it many cases names and information in one section of the files was found to be disclosed later in the material.
Analysis of the Files - Leading Experts
Along with the upcoming weekly presentation of the files, GoLocal will provide expert analysis from a range of top law enforcement and criminal attorneys, including former RI State Police Superintendent Brendan Doherty, Criminal Defense Attorney Artin Coloian, and former Rhode Island Attorney General Arlene Violet as well as many others.
GoLocal will also be providing a glossary of terms and a list of major characters during the course of series and each will be updated weekly.
Access to the FBI Files
Pursuant to federal law, GoLocal filed for the release of the FBI file pertaining to Patriarca. The Freedom of Information Act allows any person—except fugitives, federal agencies, and foreign intelligence agencies—to request information about "organizations, businesses, investigations, historical events, incidents, groups, or deceased persons."
The FBI notified GoLocal that the request was being granted approximately three months after the request was filed. The files were received by GoLocal a number of months later. Since May, GoLocal has been digitizing the files for presentation.
http://www.golocalworcester.com/patriar ... ime-family
GoLocalWorcester News Team
July 27, 2015
Raymond Patriarca ruled New England organized crime for nearly fifty years. The Worcester-born crime boss moved to Providence as a boy, but married a woman from Worcester and controlled organized crime in the City for decades.
For the past year, GoLocal reporters and editors have been working to gain access to the Federal Bureau of Investigation's (FBI) file for one of America’s most infamous criminals and one of Rhode Island’s notorious favorite sons - Raymond Patriarca.
Launching on August 3, 2015 and continuing over the next few months, GoLocal will be releasing the FBI files in segments - with expert insights and related documents - each Monday. This weekly series is being called, “The Patriarca Papers.”
From the 1940's to the 1990's, New England organized crime was led by Patriarca (who died in 1984), and then by his son Raymond “Junior” Patriarca.
Patriarca not only dominated New England, but by many accounts was one of the most influential criminals in America. There has long been an urban myth that Patriarca was the foundation for Don Corleone's character in Mario Puzo’s “The Godfather" - and after reading this dossier on Patriarca, the event and characters often seem remarkably similar.
"I first met Raymond when he was held on 'accessory to murder' charges in 1981 but as a result of a heart ailment, he was admitted to Miriam Hospital. I spent a night or two with him at the hospital. The manner in which he carried himself and his mere presence was that of an old school mobster. He exuded confidence," said Brendan Doherty, former Superintendent of the Rhode Island State Police.
FBI files unveil hundreds of connections, alleged crimes and business partners of Patriarca that have never been disclosed before in such detail. The Patriarca Papers are a tour of New England, and these files bring forward alleged connections to high level politicians, a tie into one of New England’s favorite amusement parks, and linkage to one of the region’s biggest bankers, to name just a few of the elements in the files.
The FBI materials begin in 1954 and continue into the 1980’s, and these files tell such tales as paying off an aide to the Governor of Massachusetts to get pardoned, Patriarca's involvement in a prison break that lead to two prison officials being murdered, and his early days of violence.
The stories about Raymond Patriarca range from condemnation about his violence to praise for his commitment to the Federal Hill neighborhood.
"I did meet him (Patriarca), when I was campaigning on Federal Hill," said Arlene Violet, former Rhode Island Attorney General, in an interview with GoLocal. "I don’t know if he stepped out of his office because he knew I was on the hill, but I literally almost bumped into him."
'Hiya, Sister' he said," continued Violet. "You’re no brother,' I responded."
Nearly 10,000 Pages
Starting in 2014, GoLocal began the process of securing nearly 10,000 pages of FBI documents. In May of 2015, the FBI approved GoLocal’s request for the files and transferred hundreds of individual files containing nearly ten thousand pages of FBI memos and official bureau documents. Correspondingly, hundreds of pages were withheld by the FBI.
On many pages, some information has been redacted by the Bureau. Names of those interviewed, the identity of some of the FBI’s Special Agents (SA), and other information has been blocked out. However, in the preparation of the presentation of The Patriarca Papers, it many cases names and information in one section of the files was found to be disclosed later in the material.
Analysis of the Files - Leading Experts
Along with the upcoming weekly presentation of the files, GoLocal will provide expert analysis from a range of top law enforcement and criminal attorneys, including former RI State Police Superintendent Brendan Doherty, Criminal Defense Attorney Artin Coloian, and former Rhode Island Attorney General Arlene Violet as well as many others.
GoLocal will also be providing a glossary of terms and a list of major characters during the course of series and each will be updated weekly.
Access to the FBI Files
Pursuant to federal law, GoLocal filed for the release of the FBI file pertaining to Patriarca. The Freedom of Information Act allows any person—except fugitives, federal agencies, and foreign intelligence agencies—to request information about "organizations, businesses, investigations, historical events, incidents, groups, or deceased persons."
The FBI notified GoLocal that the request was being granted approximately three months after the request was filed. The files were received by GoLocal a number of months later. Since May, GoLocal has been digitizing the files for presentation.
http://www.golocalworcester.com/patriar ... ime-family
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^^Thanks for the heads up, WG.
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The FBI sends the files as pdfs, so they're already digitized. They make such a big deal about it as if no one has ever requested a file before.Wiseguy wrote:The Patriarca Papers - FBI Files of the Boss of the New England Crime Family
GoLocalWorcester News Team
July 27, 2015
Since May, GoLocal has been digitizing the files for presentation.
http://www.golocalworcester.com/patriar ... ime-family