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I could see that happening with Ligambi wanting to retire and Ciancaglini being in his 80s. Iannarella looks good for his age so he has the right combination of experience and physical health for the role. It also seems like Burnstein got it right when he identified Lancellotti as street boss a few years ago.
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Yeah I would not guess he was in his 70s from looking at him in that video
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Who’s the current underboss? Steve Mazzone seems to have taken more of a back seat I see more photos of his brother Sonny now and I don’t he was at Joeys wife’s recent birthday party.
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CatStevens9 wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:49 pm Who’s the current underboss? Steve Mazzone seems to have taken more of a back seat I see more photos of his brother Sonny now and I don’t he was at Joeys wife’s recent birthday party.
That's a good question who is the Underboss? There really has been no new info on that. Only can speculate.
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Is there any new info if Mazzone, Narducci and Chang are still on a ruling panel? Maybe it was disolved after Lancelotti's promotion. I can see an administration restructure going on the last couple of years.
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eboli wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:28 am Is there any new info if Mazzone, Narducci and Chang are still on a ruling panel? Maybe it was disolved after Lancelotti's promotion. I can see an administration restructure going on the last couple of years.
I thought it turned out that Anastasia backed off the claim of this ruling panel. I think since the indictment of Ligambi there has been so many different reports of who is who in the administration. It's been confusing on which is true. Merlino as boss is the only position that hasn't changed in the different opinions.
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Frank wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:02 am
eboli wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:28 am Is there any new info if Mazzone, Narducci and Chang are still on a ruling panel? Maybe it was disolved after Lancelotti's promotion. I can see an administration restructure going on the last couple of years.
I thought it turned out that Anastasia backed off the claim of this ruling panel. I think since the indictment of Ligambi there has been so many different reports of who is who in the administration. It's been confusing on which is true. Merlino as boss is the only position that hasn't changed in the different opinions.
Merlino as boss and mikey lance as street boss r the only 100% confirmed positions. Mazzone is also prob up in the admin along with narducci.
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slimshady_007 wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:45 am
Frank wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:02 am
eboli wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:28 am Is there any new info if Mazzone, Narducci and Chang are still on a ruling panel? Maybe it was disolved after Lancelotti's promotion. I can see an administration restructure going on the last couple of years.
I thought it turned out that Anastasia backed off the claim of this ruling panel. I think since the indictment of Ligambi there has been so many different reports of who is who in the administration. It's been confusing on which is true. Merlino as boss is the only position that hasn't changed in the different opinions.
Merlino as boss and mikey lance as street boss r the only 100% confirmed positions. Mazzone is also prob up in the admin along with narducci.
I'm not sure about Narducci being in the administration, or if that ruling panel ever existed. When Ligambi was taken off the street, it was reported that Mazzone was acting boss or street boss and the younger Chang was underboss, not sure if he was official or acting. Then I believe the Anastasia report of the ruling panel came out a few years later, Wich I believe he ended up saying was wrong. Ligambi gets out and is reportedly now the consigliere. Chickie Chang gets out and is said to be underboss with his son acting underboss. Then it's reported that Chickie is co consigliere with Ligambi. Lance is then identified as what now turns out to be street boss. When Merlino is indicted in 2016 there was reports that Ligambi was acting boss again. And to confuse things even more, who was the official underboss, Ligambi or Mazzone, let's say in year 2010. Because I thought Mazzone was , but there is info that Ligambi was acting boss and the official Underboss. Also is acting boss and street boss different positions in Philadelphia or are we describing the same position.
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Phil Narducci isn’t in the admin or ever was. I personally don’t even think he’s involved.
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I think so much of that confusion stems from ScottB constantly changing the hierarchy per his "sources". Seems that every time a big name gets out he tries to fit him into the administration. Case in point Iannarella. GA and Dave S just said they don't know if Faffy has even gotten involved again but yet Scott is already trying to plug him in as the new Consigliere. I'm also not buying the Joe Ciancaglini Sr. being a a "Co-Consigliere". Sounds like his usual overhyping. The family never had that even at their peak but suddenly they started using 2 Consiglieres when they are on their last legs? I'm not buying him having been the UnderBoss with his own Acting UnderBoss either for the same reason. No other sources have made any mention of it except for him which immediately raises a red flag.


Did GA mention Ligambi being the Consigliere or did that also come from ScottB? I forgot.


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Well I would wait before fully believing that Faffy is new consigliere. Philadelphia is another hard to figure out Family in terms of positions in the Merlino years. Ivy also seen charts with Mazzone listed as underboss sometime in the last 5 years. With the apparo stepping back of Mazzone and Chang and now Ligambi and Chickie it seems like new people might be in all the positions starting when Lance took over as street boss. But we really don't know who was what before that. We know obviously that Merlino and Ligambi were boss and acting boss. It's pretty safe to say Mazzone took over as street or acting boss after Ligambi. The Lance as street or acting boss has been confirmed.
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:03 am Did GA mention Ligambi being the Consigliere or did that also come from ScottB? I forgot.

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"Co-Consigliere"
That's kind of like a "Jewish Consigliere", right?

Faffy seemed like a vicious SOB in the Scarfo era. It takes a special kind of person to off a man right in front of his mom and then smack her with the murder weapon. Though Frank Friel said Faffy "could be quite a charming fellow when he's not killing people".
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:03 am I think so much of that confusion stems from ScottB constantly changing the hierarchy per his "sources". Seems that every time a big name gets out he tries to fit him into the administration. Case in point Iannarella. GA and Dave S just said they don't know if Faffy has even gotten involved again but yet Scott is already trying to plug him in as the new Consigliere. I'm also not buying the Joe Ciancaglini Sr. being a a "Co-Consigliere". Sounds like his usual overhyping. The family never had that even at their peak but suddenly they started using 2 Consiglieres when they are on their last legs? I'm not buying him having been the UnderBoss with his own Acting UnderBoss either for the same reason. No other sources have made any mention of it except for him which immediately raises a red flag.


Did GA mention Ligambi being the Consigliere or did that also come from ScottB? I forgot.


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Yes now that you mention it, the plugging in of all the old Scarfo era guys upon release from prison, seems like a trend. Now I gave Scott credit for the Mike Lance news, but only after it was confirmed a few years later. Sometimes I wonder if the true holder of the positions are some somewhere laughing, or could they be the source. Well if Ligambi was the official underboss still when he got out in I believe 2014, don't alot of people not even know that he was even in that position? Because most people think it was Steve Mazzone as official underboss all these years. That could of made it possible for Chickie as consigliere.
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