decav vs colombo

[JeremyTheJew]

I know it sounds BBish again....

Rather then who is "stronger or more powerfull" can we compare these two families? Id say that from what i have read here id say the decavs would be almost more stable.

Idk about influence wise whos voice would carry more weight in a sit down?

[Pogo The Clown]

There is no real comparison. The Colombos are several times larger and much more active. Doesn't look the DeCavalcantes ever really recovered from the 1999-2000 busts.


Pogo

[DPG]

Based on what? There not being anymore busts?

[JeremyTheJew]

Pogo, what crews in colombo family are still active and not imprisoned?

[Wiseguy]

Based on what? There not being anymore busts?

There have been some DeCavalcante busts but nothing like the the ones in the late 1990's and early 2000's. The Colombos have continued to be much more active and, as Pogo said, are considerably larger.

[furiofromnaples]

The Colombos had 10 capos when the DeCavalcantes only four. In NJ there are 7 families that had crews and the decavalcante had more competion against.

[Pogo The Clown]

And if you look at those cases over the last 10 years they have been relatively minor in scope. In 2006 the family also lost LIUNA Local 394 which was their main racket and source of influence.


Pogo

[SonnyBlackstein]

Decav's vs Columbo's.

Rare footage of what went down.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ipsPgNEmAXI

[brianwellbrock]

In the 90's you could of made an argument of the Decavs being the sixth family considering they had a strong base in NY. And had Vinny Ocean became boss or sole acting boss yiu would of had 6 bosses in NY. Plus 3 other crews their with influence on Wall Street. Even than though, had the bust of 99-00 had not happened the Decavs would of still been a solid 6. That couldve changed over time if their NY crews began beefing up and they increased manpower and rackets but well never know.

My source with his ear to the streets told me they are quietly rebuilding in NY and are ready to make themselves prominent again. You guys believe me right?

[JeremyTheJew]

I thought that the decavs were more stable since the 99 bust. Since then the sicilians took over i was under the impression and it was much more low key. The colombos i thought were almost decimated to s street gang almost. But i haven't really done much recent looking into them.

Is there any idea once persico dies who could possibly step up? Anothet persico?

Also when was that last decav bust? It was last year wasnt it?

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[brianwellbrock]

I thought that the decavs were more stable since the 99 bust. Since then the sicilians took over i was under the impression and it was much more low key. The colombos i thought were almost decimated to s street gang almost. But i haven't really done much recent looking into them.

Is there any idea once persico dies who could possibly step up? Anothet persico?

Also when was that last decav bust? It was last year wasnt it?

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Theyve stabalized but are nowhere near as powerful as they once were. They seem to have no NY activities and they lost local 394 which was their bread and butter. In size ans activity are a fraction of what they were pre99.

Even if the 99 Decav busts didnt happen the Colombos would be a few lengths in front of them still. Just by sheer size alone.

My opinon, The Colombos are so used to having their boss in prison it wont matter when Persico dies Allie Boy will become boss even though hes doing life. I wouldnt be surprised if by now Allies sendong out messages and Carmines just a figurehead. Allie boys been slated to take over since the mid 80's and a life sentence wont stop that. The Colombos dont need their boss out on the streets.

[JeremyTheJew]

Its prob better the decavs stay outta ny for now...

That would make sense about allie boy im the sense that the heat would still stay on someone locked up.

Who would anyone say are the top capos on the street

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[Pogo The Clown]

Who would anyone say are the top capos on the street

Here is what I have for the Colombos. Any additions or correction welcome.


I should add that Little Allie Boy Persico, while seemingly not having an official rank is/was pretty much functioning as the Boss since the late 90s or so.


Administration:
1. Boss: Carmine "Junior/The Snake" Persico/83 (IP/L)
-Acting Boss: Andrew "Andy Mush" Russo/80
2. UnderBoss: Benjamin "The Little Guy/Claw" Castellazzo/77
-Acting UnderBoss: Dominic "Donny Shacks" Montemarano/76
3. Consiglieri: ?????
-Acting Consiglieri: Thomas “Tom Mix/Mr. T” Farese/72


Capos:
1. Joseph Amato/56 - Brooklyn
2. Joseph Baudanza/70 - Brooklyn, Manhattan and Staten Island
3. Dennis "Fat/Little/The Beard" DeLucia/72 - Brooklyn and the Bronx
4. Thomas “Tom Mix/Mr. T” Farese/72 – South Florida
5. Ralph Lombardo Sr/84/Luca DiMatteo/70 (UI) – Brooklyn, Queens and Long Island
6. Theodore "Teddy/Skinny" Persico Jr/51 (IP/8/21/2020) – Brooklyn
7. Thomas Petrizzo/81 – Brooklyn
8. William “Billy” Russo/53 - Brooklyn
9. Michael Uvino/49 (IP/6/5/2016)/Michael Catapano/51 (IP/5/1/2016) – Brooklyn and Long Island

[toto]

Keep in mind there was a discussion internal to Cosa Nostra to disband Colombo family. They decided against it only because of respect for Carmine Persico. If such a discussion takes place after his death most likely they will disband the family or prevent it from making any new members. Size and activity have nothing to do with this discussion.

[Pogo The Clown]

Another reason why it didn't happen, probably a much more important reason, was that the other families didn't want to take in people they didn't know. I don't see that objection ever changing. That was 16 years ago.


Pogo