How big was christie tick furnari/19th hole crew?

[AlexfromSouth]

Hello everybody,I was wondering if we can start a debate.How big was This Lucchese crew,before and after the books opened..?Who were the soldiers in this crew?
Thanks in advance

[Giacomo_Vacari]

It was a big crew under Sonny C. The Vario crew and one other, the name escapes me split from this crew right before the books closed, all based in Brooklyn. There are more knowledgeable posters on here who would know more.

[JeremyTheJew]

Vario ran east ny part of bk as well as south bk where gaspipe came up around and where i assume chrissy tick camr from

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[JeremyTheJew]

I meant to say: did vario run both east ny and south bk?

I assumed chrissy tick ran south brooklyn area

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[Giacomo_Vacari]

Vario operated mainly out of Bensonhurst. Tick was born in Dyker Heights, and took over Sonny C 19th Hole. Gaspipe grew up in South Brooklyn and hanged around a lot in Red Hook. Amuso grew up around Park Slope.
The crews were all over Brooklyn area, but Tick operated from Dyker Heights, and Vario from Bensonhurst.

[AlexfromSouth]

GV,you said christie tick was around south bk too,and amuso is from the navy yard like Darco.I think Vario operated only east NY,canarsie aswell as parts of Queens dont you?Angelo defendis was in Christie ticks crew i think.Was Pete chiodo with tick before he got made?

[Pogo The Clown]

Originally there was one Brooklyn Crew. By the 60s a portion of this Crew seems to have broken off into the 19th Hole Crew (possibly under Funari). By the 90s (maybe even earlier) this crew wound up operating in Bensonhurst. By the 80s (maybe the 70s) another Brooklyn Crew sprung up (the McDonald Avenue Crew) which have broken off from one of the other Crews. This Crew also wound up operating in the South Brooklyn/Bensonhurst area by the 90s.


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[AlexfromSouth]

who was the capo of that McDonald crew?How is that so unknown?

[Pogo The Clown]

who was the capo of that McDonald crew?How is that so unknown?

Here is a breakdown of that Crew that I have put together (with help from JD).


Peter “Fat Pete” Chiodo (1988-1991) Demoted.
-Richard "The Toupee" Pagliarulo (1991) Became Official Capo.
Richard "The Toupee" Pagliarulo (1991-1997) Imprisoned.
-Frank “Frankie Bones” Papagni (1992-1996) Imprisoned.
Eugene “Bobsie” Castelle (1997-2000s) Stepped Down.
-Castelle also served as Acting UnderBoss from 1998/9-2000.
John “Big John” Castellucci (2000s-Present)


Pogo

[AlexfromSouth]

Were they all centered around McDonald ave in Brooklyn?

[Pogo The Clown]

Were they all centered around McDonald ave in Brooklyn?

I don't know. They probably weren't all confined to that one specific area.


Pogo

[johnny_scootch]

Vario operated mainly out of Bensonhurst.

If by Bensonhurst you mean Canarsie then bingo your right lol

[B.]

Would be curious to know how the Curiale crew got started with the Gagliano family. The core of the family at that time was based out of East Harlem and from Corleone and Palermo, but here this crew was in Brooklyn and had Agrigento members. D'Arco says something in his book about there originally being one Brooklyn family and this crew was a part of that, but he only had word-of-mouth history and might not remember all of the details he heard correctly anyway. The fact that it was a big deal that Brooklyn members were finally taking over the family in the 1980s tells me that the Brooklyn crew(s) were always seen as outsiders in the family.

[AlexfromSouth]

I don't belive that they were outsiders,so to say.The Vario crew was very powerfull and always was.East NY/Brownsville and Canarsie was a big big area not to mention the suronding parts of Queenns etc,and Paul kind of ruled that area.I dont understand how Vasso didn't tell who some of the memmbers were in his crew.It had to be a 15-20 made man crew.Do you agree?

[AlexfromSouth]

When i write Vasso I actually mean Anthony Casso