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Great showman,great bussiness man,great playboy Berlusconi was great in most things he did.
But was the man that officially hosted Vittorio Mangano, bridgehead of the Mafia in Sicily, as stable boy.
He will be remembered as the one who definitively ruined Italy both politically and morally.
Rot in Hell, Silvio.
Great showman,great bussiness man,great playboy Berlusconi was great in most things he did.
But was the man that officially hosted Vittorio Mangano, bridgehead of the Mafia in Sicily, as stable boy.
He will be remembered as the one who definitively ruined Italy both politically and morally.
Rot in Hell, Silvio.
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I don’t think he’s reading this Furio.
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I know, and this is an epitaph that I dedicate to him.
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I’m an Interista.furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:11 pm https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/12/euro ... index.html
Great showman,great bussiness man,great playboy Berlusconi was great in most things he did.
But was the man that officially hosted Vittorio Mangano, bridgehead of the Mafia in Sicily, as stable boy.
He will be remembered as the one who definitively ruined Italy both politically and morally.
Rot in Hell, Silvio.
I like your post Furio. Keep it up
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Nel bene e nel male… l'uomo politico italiano e imprenditore piu’ conosciuto nel mondo negli ultimi trent'annifuriofromnaples wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 2:11 pm https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/12/euro ... index.html
Great showman,great bussiness man,great playboy Berlusconi was great in most things he did.
But was the man that officially hosted Vittorio Mangano, bridgehead of the Mafia in Sicily, as stable boy.
He will be remembered as the one who definitively ruined Italy both politically and morally.
Rot in Hell, Silvio.
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I respect his open womanizing and corruption very few politicians own up to who they are
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I wonder if he ever hosted a bunga bunga party with Toto riina
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Can you imagine partying with this guy in his 70s let alone his 20s? I don’t know if he was a force for good or evil for Italy, I haven’t observed the politics too avidly. I did like that he was outspoken on certain issues which in this day and age is almost the best you can ask for from a politician.
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MSFRD Berlusconi gave political roles to women whose only "merit" was that they were beautiful and slept with him.MSFRD wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:38 pm Can you imagine partying with this guy in his 70s let alone his 20s? I don’t know if he was a force for good or evil for Italy, I haven’t observed the politics too avidly. I did like that he was outspoken on certain issues which in this day and age is almost the best you can ask for from a politician.
No one has ever reproached him for having a palace full of girls as his personal harem.
Silvio was a sex addict, she even called Merkel culona inchiavabile "unfuckable big ass woman" and in another of having seduced an important European woman politician.
And these are only part of damages made to italy credibility.
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He does look like a mafia member with that 357 magnum behind him, this is photo from late 1970's back when he was member of P2 and close to powerful memebers of sicilian mafia.
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September 29, 1936 Silvio Berlusconi born in Milan
1961 he graduated with honors in Jurisprudence took at Statale University
After the first experiences occasional youth work as a singer and entertainer on cruise ships with his friend Fedele Confalonieri and as a door to door salesman of electric brooms with his friend Guido Possa, began working as a real estate agent and, in 1961, he founded the Cantieri Riuniti Milanesi Srl together with the builder Pietro Canali.
To start his business in 1961 in the construction industry Berlusconi he obtained a guarantee by Banca Rasini indicated by Michele Sindona and in various documents of the magistracy as the main bank used by the mafia in northern Italy for money laundering and among the where clients could list Totò Riina, Bernardo Provenzano and Pippo Calo.
In 1963 he founded the Edilnord Sas
March 6, 1965 married Carla Elvira Lucia dall'Oglio
August 10, 1966 born the daughter Maria Elvira said Marina
April 28, 1969 born the son Pier Silvio
In the first half of the seventies organized crime based in Milan organized numerous kidnappings for ransom. In this context, in July 1974 by the lawyer from Palermo Marcello Dell'Utri (at the time collaborator of
Berlusconi), Vittorio Mangano was "called upon to perform the function of guarantees and protection "to protect the safety of his employer and his closest family members, in a time when it was decided the transfer of Berlusconi, in the estate of Arcore, just bought. "
Berlusconi "feared that his family were subject to kidnappings," and therefore Dell'Ultri strove "for the hiring of Vittorio Mangano at the villa of Arcore (...) as a" responsible "(or" factor "or "supervisor" if you prefer) and not as a mere "groom", knowing the thickness of the same delinquent Mangano since the time of Palermo (and, indeed, precisely for that its "quality"), obtaining the approval of Stefano Bontate and Girolamo Teresi, at the time two of the "men of honor" most important of "Cosa Nostra" in Palermo
May 26, 1975 a bomb exploded at Berlusconi's villa in via Rovani in Milan, then in restoration, "causing extensive damage with the breakthrough of the perimeter walls and the collapse of the first floor landing».
According as witnessed by Fedele Confalonieri, immediately after the departure of Mangano from Arcore, Berlusconi had received letters with threats: "Precisely because of those threats - said Confalonieri - Berlusconi took his family and brought it first in Switzerland; I remember that we went also to accompany him
with Marcello Dell'Utri in Nyon, which is close to Geneva. I think then they stayed there a couple of weeks or three weeks and then went to the South of Spain, Marbella and stayed there a few months »
In 1978, Berlusconi buys Telemilano which two years later was given the name of Channel 5 and takes the form of a national television network, which includes several issuers. Also in 1978, Berlusconi founded, Fininvest, a holding company that coordinates all the activities of the entrepreneur.
January 26, 1978 entry of Berlusconi in the P2 Masonic lodge, in via dei Condotti in Rome, the card is no. 1816 code E. 19.78 , group 17, file 0625, as is apparent from the documents and receipts seized at the leaders of the loggia
1980 in Milan, he met the actress Veronica Lario, the name of Miriam Bartolini (Bologna, 1956), immediately taking an affair with her, making her move in together to her mother in the headquarters of Fininvest, at villa Borletti Rovani street in Milan.
Arlesheim,July 30, 1984 born the daughter Barbara Berlusconi
1982, the group is expanding with the purchase of Italia 1
1984 buy Rete 4
1984,the district judges in Turin, Pescara and Rome obscure the Fininvest for violating the law that prohibited private networks to broadcast on a national scale. The prosecution is stopped after a few days by the government led by Bettino Craxi, who with a special decree legalizing the situation of Fininvest.
The Fininvest group can with non-legal means for the legislation of those years,to break the monopoly of RAI television.
1985 Berlusconi divorced by Carla Dall'Oglio
February 20, 1986 Silvio Berlusconi is the owner AC Milan Soccer Association
1986 born the daughter Eleonora Berlusconi
November 28, 1986 bomb attack yet against the same villa at via Rovani. From the content of telephone conversations by Silvio Berlusconi and Marcello Dell'Utri there were doubts about the attributability of the attack in 1975 just to the person of Mangano ».Complete second attack damage created solely to the outer gate. Berlusconi intercepted, said the explosion on the phone with Dell'Ultri jokingly calling it something "done with great respect, almost with affection (...) because I have only cracked the bottom of the gate," adding
that "in my opinion, is like a request ... another would send a letter or made a phone call: he put the bomb."
1988 born the son Luigi Berlusconi
1990 The Mammì Law definitely makes legal the dissemination at national level of private radio and television programs.
January 26, 1994, the day of the descent into politics with Forza Italy
March 27, 1994 general elections end with the electoral victory of Forza Italia (Go Italy) in the race with the Lega Nord of Umberto Bossi in the northern regions and the MSI Gianfranco Fini in the rest of Italy
January 2, 1996 The prosecutor of Palermo investigated Silvio Berlusconi and Marcello Dell'Utri for collusion with the mafia and money laundering. In 1997, the position of Berlusconi has been archived at the end of the preliminary investigation
May 10, 1994 - JANUARY 17 1995 First Berlusconi Government
June 11, 2001 - April 23, 2005 Second Government
April 23, 2005 - May 17, 2006 Third Government
8 May 2008 - 16 November 2011 Fourth Government
2007 prosecutor of Naples opened an investigation into Berlusconi (then leader of the opposition) suspected of bribing Agostino Sacca, Director of Rai Fiction. Among the records of the investigation there is a wiretap between the two defendants, which is published in all media when the investigation is still ongoing The investigation has come to Naples in January at the request of trial, but before would open the process in July 2008, Berlusconi's lawyers asked and obtained the displacement of the investigation in Rome for lack of
territorial jurisdiction.
In 2008 the new officers of the investigation the Roman prosecutors have requested the dismissal of the investigation and the destruction of wiretapping, arguing that "There is no certainty of" do ut des ". The close link between Mr Berlusconi and Sacca, which is evident by the investigative, was such as to allow the former to carry messages per second without promise or getting anything in return "
In the fourth Berlusconi government,Mara Carfagna, a former showgirl, was chosen to fill the role of Minister for Equal Opportunities.
According to many rumors, some wiretaps carried out as part of a corruption investigation against Berlusconi ould have produced material is not subject to prosecution on alleged sexual favors made ??by the President of
the Council of Ministers as Minister Berlusconi in exchange for the minister role.
July 2009, the newspaper L'Espresso publishes on its website the audio recordings of the meetings between Silvio Berlusconi and escort Patrizia D'Addario (made ​​by herself).
These records date back to October 2008 and were filed by the same D'Addario at the prosecutor's office in Bari, who has heard and published as relevant - along with other wiretaps - to shed light on the nature of the relationship between Berlusconi and the businessman Gianpaolo Tarantini of Bari under investigation for corruption and conspiracy as part of an investigation into bribes and business against the healthcare system in Apulia.
November 2010 broke the so-called "Ruby case." The story rotates around the then underage Moroccan Karima El Mahroug known as Ruby Heartbreaker, arrested for theft in Milan in May 2010. Ascertainedthe young age of the girl the judge ordered the custody according to the normal procedures. However, after Berlusconi had telephoned the police station claiming that the girl was the niece of then Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak (fact later proved false), the girl was entrusted to the PDL regional councilor Nicole Minetti. Ruby declared
that she had been a guest several times of Berlusconi at his residence of Arcore getting money on such occasions. Believing that money would be compensation for sexual services, in January 2011, the public prosecutor in Milan has contested Berlusconi to the crimes of extortion and child prostitution. The story had a great outcry in the international media and has also sparked debate within the Italian public opinion. On
June 24, 2013 Berlusconi is sentenced in first instance to 7 years in prison for extortion and coercion for aiding and abetting in child prostitution and perpetual interdiction from public office, however, at the end of the appeal process, the decision of 18 July 2014, is acquitted for lack of disputed facts.
22 August 2013, the former boss of Cosa Nostra, Totò Riina in dialogue during air time with co-inmate Alberto Lorusso recorded by the cameras of the prison in Opera, makes several statements about Dell'Utri and Berlusconi, revealing the latter from the eighties was paying protection money to Cosa Nostra to get in
exchange for reciprocal favors and future, 250 million pounds every six months
According to two investigations of the Republic of 24 November 2009 the laws "that have produced beneficial effects for Berlusconi and his company" would have been 19.
Trials and allegations involving Silvio Berlusconi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trials_and ... Berlusconi
1961 he graduated with honors in Jurisprudence took at Statale University
After the first experiences occasional youth work as a singer and entertainer on cruise ships with his friend Fedele Confalonieri and as a door to door salesman of electric brooms with his friend Guido Possa, began working as a real estate agent and, in 1961, he founded the Cantieri Riuniti Milanesi Srl together with the builder Pietro Canali.
To start his business in 1961 in the construction industry Berlusconi he obtained a guarantee by Banca Rasini indicated by Michele Sindona and in various documents of the magistracy as the main bank used by the mafia in northern Italy for money laundering and among the where clients could list Totò Riina, Bernardo Provenzano and Pippo Calo.
In 1963 he founded the Edilnord Sas
March 6, 1965 married Carla Elvira Lucia dall'Oglio
August 10, 1966 born the daughter Maria Elvira said Marina
April 28, 1969 born the son Pier Silvio
In the first half of the seventies organized crime based in Milan organized numerous kidnappings for ransom. In this context, in July 1974 by the lawyer from Palermo Marcello Dell'Utri (at the time collaborator of
Berlusconi), Vittorio Mangano was "called upon to perform the function of guarantees and protection "to protect the safety of his employer and his closest family members, in a time when it was decided the transfer of Berlusconi, in the estate of Arcore, just bought. "
Berlusconi "feared that his family were subject to kidnappings," and therefore Dell'Ultri strove "for the hiring of Vittorio Mangano at the villa of Arcore (...) as a" responsible "(or" factor "or "supervisor" if you prefer) and not as a mere "groom", knowing the thickness of the same delinquent Mangano since the time of Palermo (and, indeed, precisely for that its "quality"), obtaining the approval of Stefano Bontate and Girolamo Teresi, at the time two of the "men of honor" most important of "Cosa Nostra" in Palermo
May 26, 1975 a bomb exploded at Berlusconi's villa in via Rovani in Milan, then in restoration, "causing extensive damage with the breakthrough of the perimeter walls and the collapse of the first floor landing».
According as witnessed by Fedele Confalonieri, immediately after the departure of Mangano from Arcore, Berlusconi had received letters with threats: "Precisely because of those threats - said Confalonieri - Berlusconi took his family and brought it first in Switzerland; I remember that we went also to accompany him
with Marcello Dell'Utri in Nyon, which is close to Geneva. I think then they stayed there a couple of weeks or three weeks and then went to the South of Spain, Marbella and stayed there a few months »
In 1978, Berlusconi buys Telemilano which two years later was given the name of Channel 5 and takes the form of a national television network, which includes several issuers. Also in 1978, Berlusconi founded, Fininvest, a holding company that coordinates all the activities of the entrepreneur.
January 26, 1978 entry of Berlusconi in the P2 Masonic lodge, in via dei Condotti in Rome, the card is no. 1816 code E. 19.78 , group 17, file 0625, as is apparent from the documents and receipts seized at the leaders of the loggia
1980 in Milan, he met the actress Veronica Lario, the name of Miriam Bartolini (Bologna, 1956), immediately taking an affair with her, making her move in together to her mother in the headquarters of Fininvest, at villa Borletti Rovani street in Milan.
Arlesheim,July 30, 1984 born the daughter Barbara Berlusconi
1982, the group is expanding with the purchase of Italia 1
1984 buy Rete 4
1984,the district judges in Turin, Pescara and Rome obscure the Fininvest for violating the law that prohibited private networks to broadcast on a national scale. The prosecution is stopped after a few days by the government led by Bettino Craxi, who with a special decree legalizing the situation of Fininvest.
The Fininvest group can with non-legal means for the legislation of those years,to break the monopoly of RAI television.
1985 Berlusconi divorced by Carla Dall'Oglio
February 20, 1986 Silvio Berlusconi is the owner AC Milan Soccer Association
1986 born the daughter Eleonora Berlusconi
November 28, 1986 bomb attack yet against the same villa at via Rovani. From the content of telephone conversations by Silvio Berlusconi and Marcello Dell'Utri there were doubts about the attributability of the attack in 1975 just to the person of Mangano ».Complete second attack damage created solely to the outer gate. Berlusconi intercepted, said the explosion on the phone with Dell'Ultri jokingly calling it something "done with great respect, almost with affection (...) because I have only cracked the bottom of the gate," adding
that "in my opinion, is like a request ... another would send a letter or made a phone call: he put the bomb."
1988 born the son Luigi Berlusconi
1990 The Mammì Law definitely makes legal the dissemination at national level of private radio and television programs.
January 26, 1994, the day of the descent into politics with Forza Italy
March 27, 1994 general elections end with the electoral victory of Forza Italia (Go Italy) in the race with the Lega Nord of Umberto Bossi in the northern regions and the MSI Gianfranco Fini in the rest of Italy
January 2, 1996 The prosecutor of Palermo investigated Silvio Berlusconi and Marcello Dell'Utri for collusion with the mafia and money laundering. In 1997, the position of Berlusconi has been archived at the end of the preliminary investigation
May 10, 1994 - JANUARY 17 1995 First Berlusconi Government
June 11, 2001 - April 23, 2005 Second Government
April 23, 2005 - May 17, 2006 Third Government
8 May 2008 - 16 November 2011 Fourth Government
2007 prosecutor of Naples opened an investigation into Berlusconi (then leader of the opposition) suspected of bribing Agostino Sacca, Director of Rai Fiction. Among the records of the investigation there is a wiretap between the two defendants, which is published in all media when the investigation is still ongoing The investigation has come to Naples in January at the request of trial, but before would open the process in July 2008, Berlusconi's lawyers asked and obtained the displacement of the investigation in Rome for lack of
territorial jurisdiction.
In 2008 the new officers of the investigation the Roman prosecutors have requested the dismissal of the investigation and the destruction of wiretapping, arguing that "There is no certainty of" do ut des ". The close link between Mr Berlusconi and Sacca, which is evident by the investigative, was such as to allow the former to carry messages per second without promise or getting anything in return "
In the fourth Berlusconi government,Mara Carfagna, a former showgirl, was chosen to fill the role of Minister for Equal Opportunities.
According to many rumors, some wiretaps carried out as part of a corruption investigation against Berlusconi ould have produced material is not subject to prosecution on alleged sexual favors made ??by the President of
the Council of Ministers as Minister Berlusconi in exchange for the minister role.
July 2009, the newspaper L'Espresso publishes on its website the audio recordings of the meetings between Silvio Berlusconi and escort Patrizia D'Addario (made ​​by herself).
These records date back to October 2008 and were filed by the same D'Addario at the prosecutor's office in Bari, who has heard and published as relevant - along with other wiretaps - to shed light on the nature of the relationship between Berlusconi and the businessman Gianpaolo Tarantini of Bari under investigation for corruption and conspiracy as part of an investigation into bribes and business against the healthcare system in Apulia.
November 2010 broke the so-called "Ruby case." The story rotates around the then underage Moroccan Karima El Mahroug known as Ruby Heartbreaker, arrested for theft in Milan in May 2010. Ascertainedthe young age of the girl the judge ordered the custody according to the normal procedures. However, after Berlusconi had telephoned the police station claiming that the girl was the niece of then Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak (fact later proved false), the girl was entrusted to the PDL regional councilor Nicole Minetti. Ruby declared
that she had been a guest several times of Berlusconi at his residence of Arcore getting money on such occasions. Believing that money would be compensation for sexual services, in January 2011, the public prosecutor in Milan has contested Berlusconi to the crimes of extortion and child prostitution. The story had a great outcry in the international media and has also sparked debate within the Italian public opinion. On
June 24, 2013 Berlusconi is sentenced in first instance to 7 years in prison for extortion and coercion for aiding and abetting in child prostitution and perpetual interdiction from public office, however, at the end of the appeal process, the decision of 18 July 2014, is acquitted for lack of disputed facts.
22 August 2013, the former boss of Cosa Nostra, Totò Riina in dialogue during air time with co-inmate Alberto Lorusso recorded by the cameras of the prison in Opera, makes several statements about Dell'Utri and Berlusconi, revealing the latter from the eighties was paying protection money to Cosa Nostra to get in
exchange for reciprocal favors and future, 250 million pounds every six months
According to two investigations of the Republic of 24 November 2009 the laws "that have produced beneficial effects for Berlusconi and his company" would have been 19.
Trials and allegations involving Silvio Berlusconi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trials_and ... Berlusconi
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Ah well, they chose to sleep with him. A good woman would flatly turn it down. And yes haha, I remember the Merkel comment which in English was reported as ‘an unfuckable lardass’.furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:08 amMSFRD Berlusconi gave political roles to women whose only "merit" was that they were beautiful and slept with him.MSFRD wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:38 pm Can you imagine partying with this guy in his 70s let alone his 20s? I don’t know if he was a force for good or evil for Italy, I haven’t observed the politics too avidly. I did like that he was outspoken on certain issues which in this day and age is almost the best you can ask for from a politician.
No one has ever reproached him for having a palace full of girls as his personal harem.
Silvio was a sex addict, she even called Merkel culona inchiavabile "unfuckable big ass woman" and in another of having seduced an important European woman politician.
And these are only part of damages made to italy credibility.
All the best Furio.
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And?? Merkel was indeed an unfuckable lardass. No lies told. She may even be a man, nobody's exactly sure.
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They choose to sleep with him because Silvio promised them a political role and kept the promises.MSFRD wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:53 amAh well, they chose to sleep with him. A good woman would flatly turn it down. And yes haha, I remember the Merkel comment which in English was reported as ‘an unfuckable lardass’.furiofromnaples wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:08 amMSFRD Berlusconi gave political roles to women whose only "merit" was that they were beautiful and slept with him.MSFRD wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:38 pm Can you imagine partying with this guy in his 70s let alone his 20s? I don’t know if he was a force for good or evil for Italy, I haven’t observed the politics too avidly. I did like that he was outspoken on certain issues which in this day and age is almost the best you can ask for from a politician.
No one has ever reproached him for having a palace full of girls as his personal harem.
Silvio was a sex addict, she even called Merkel culona inchiavabile "unfuckable big ass woman" and in another of having seduced an important European woman politician.
And these are only part of damages made to italy credibility.
All the best Furio.
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Berlusconi was the Prime Minister and Merkel too.
He wasn't chatting at the bar with friends, what politician would say things like that, other than Trump who in many attitudes is the Silvio Berlusconi of America.