In the movie Casino, they depict "Nicky Santoro" (Tony Spilotro) as wanting to plant his flag in Las Vegas, essentially establishing his own Family. My question os two-fold.
A.) Is there any truth Spilotro wanting and attempting to create his own Family?
B.) Whether true or not, what would have been the process (politically) to make this happen?
Tony Spilotro Las Vegas Family?
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No process would have been available for that. Even suggesting it would have been a guaranteed "Aiuppa orders your torture-murder" move.Don_Peppino wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:57 pm B.) Whether true or not, what would have been the process (politically) to make this happen?
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I don’t think he wanted to make his own family. I think it was more on the line of him one day taking over the entire OutfitDon_Peppino wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:57 pm In the movie Casino, they depict "Nicky Santoro" (Tony Spilotro) as wanting to plant his flag in Las Vegas, essentially establishing his own Family. My question os two-fold.
A.) Is there any truth Spilotro wanting and attempting to create his own Family?
B.) Whether true or not, what would have been the process (politically) to make this happen?
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Did Spilotro still have a base of power in Chicago during his time in Las Vegas?Patrickgold wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:28 pmI don’t think he wanted to make his own family. I think it was more on the line of him one day taking over the entire OutfitDon_Peppino wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:57 pm In the movie Casino, they depict "Nicky Santoro" (Tony Spilotro) as wanting to plant his flag in Las Vegas, essentially establishing his own Family. My question os two-fold.
A.) Is there any truth Spilotro wanting and attempting to create his own Family?
B.) Whether true or not, what would have been the process (politically) to make this happen?
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Re: Tony Spilotro Las Vegas Family?
He had his supporters but his power base was VegasDon_Peppino wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:01 amDid Spilotro still have a base of power in Chicago during his time in Las Vegas?Patrickgold wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:28 pmI don’t think he wanted to make his own family. I think it was more on the line of him one day taking over the entire OutfitDon_Peppino wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 9:57 pm In the movie Casino, they depict "Nicky Santoro" (Tony Spilotro) as wanting to plant his flag in Las Vegas, essentially establishing his own Family. My question os two-fold.
A.) Is there any truth Spilotro wanting and attempting to create his own Family?
B.) Whether true or not, what would have been the process (politically) to make this happen?
Re: Tony Spilotro Las Vegas Family?
If you go by Cullotta's interview in Casino, Spilotro had gone on a rant one time where he was talking about taking out several of the Chicago bosses and Western/Midwest bosses so he could take over everything in the West/Midwest. If that happened I think he saw himself being in charge of Chicago and it's western rackets but he'd be based in Las Vegas. Cullotta claims he tried to talk him out of it by saying if that happened then the families in New York, Detroit, Milwaukee and Kansas City would not let that stand. It's only mentioned on one page in Casino, but that's Cullotta's claim.
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He was good as a tough guy and a bully, but Chicago needed to send someone out there with more finesse imo.Adam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:09 pm If you go by Cullotta's interview in Casino, Spilotro had gone on a rant one time where he was talking about taking out several of the Chicago bosses and Western/Midwest bosses so he could take over everything in the West/Midwest. If that happened I think he saw himself being in charge of Chicago and it's western rackets but he'd be based in Las Vegas. Cullotta claims he tried to talk him out of it by saying if that happened then the families in New York, Detroit, Milwaukee and Kansas City would not let that stand. It's only mentioned on one page in Casino, but that's Cullotta's claim.
Spilotro thought he was smarter than he really was, probably why it was so easy to lure him to his death with that ploy
Re: Tony Spilotro Las Vegas Family?
He wasn't lured to his death, he felt obligated. Sure, he was told that he was getting a promotion and his brother was getting made, but they had a good idea that they weren't coming back. Spilotro had a huge ego with even bigger ambitions, but he was also a dutiful soldier. He would have gone no matter what they told him.Teflon Dom wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:15 pmHe was good as a tough guy and a bully, but Chicago needed to send someone out there with more finesse imo.Adam wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:09 pm If you go by Cullotta's interview in Casino, Spilotro had gone on a rant one time where he was talking about taking out several of the Chicago bosses and Western/Midwest bosses so he could take over everything in the West/Midwest. If that happened I think he saw himself being in charge of Chicago and it's western rackets but he'd be based in Las Vegas. Cullotta claims he tried to talk him out of it by saying if that happened then the families in New York, Detroit, Milwaukee and Kansas City would not let that stand. It's only mentioned on one page in Casino, but that's Cullotta's claim.
Spilotro thought he was smarter than he really was, probably why it was so easy to lure him to his death with that ploy