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Just to be clear i'm talking about RJ.
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I have to respectfully disagree. Michael has said more than once killing paul was the wrong play. If he waits it out, Hes boss anyways, he just couldnt wait.JMAN723 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:37 amAgreed. He says he does criticize Gotti but not really. The only thing I can think of is that he believes Gotti made the absolute wrong decision regarding the Favara situation that’s about as critical as he gets
He also say’s he fell asleep on sammy.
Theres quite a few things he disagrees with.
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Yeah, no issue with Michael. And he flat out says he personally has an affinity for Gotti, which I can respect.Cheech wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:35 pmI have to respectfully disagree. Michael has said more than once killing paul was the wrong play. If he waits it out, Hes boss anyways, he just couldnt wait.JMAN723 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:37 amAgreed. He says he does criticize Gotti but not really. The only thing I can think of is that he believes Gotti made the absolute wrong decision regarding the Favara situation that’s about as critical as he gets
He also say’s he fell asleep on sammy.
Theres quite a few things he disagrees with.
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. There’s been a few things but he does seem to pass most of the blame on Sammy. I don’t like Sammy at all but I think Gotti caused most of his own problems. I don’t think Sammy manipulated him into killing guys. Gotti was known to have a short fuse and wouldn’t take much to order guys dead especially if they weren’t particularly close to him. I do give Mikey credit for calling out Gotti regarding the Favara situation. He has said many times that the guy was an innocent who unfortunately got put in a bad situation and shouldn’t have been killedCheech wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:35 pmI have to respectfully disagree. Michael has said more than once killing paul was the wrong play. If he waits it out, Hes boss anyways, he just couldnt wait.JMAN723 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 7:37 amAgreed. He says he does criticize Gotti but not really. The only thing I can think of is that he believes Gotti made the absolute wrong decision regarding the Favara situation that’s about as critical as he gets
He also say’s he fell asleep on sammy.
Theres quite a few things he disagrees with.
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Michael has pointed out before that a big difference between Gotti and Gravano is a lot of the guys Gravano killed were from his own crew while Gotti protected his own people and mainly took out guys outside of his circle.
Similar to the criticisms DeCarlo and Moretti made of Richie Boiardo who took out many men from his own crew over the years.
Similar to the criticisms DeCarlo and Moretti made of Richie Boiardo who took out many men from his own crew over the years.
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Gravano was motivated by money. Gotti was motivated by the life. Big difference. Gotti thought Gravano was about that life. He was about himself
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It's a dinstinction that, quite frankly, i never really thought of but is definitely true. Michael also floats the theory that Jimmy Brown and Danny Marino were at least quietly aware that it was Chin that was taking out important Gambino's, and that they may have been waiting by for their chance to take the reins if he ever got to Gotti.B. wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2023 1:09 pm Michael has pointed out before that a big difference between Gotti and Gravano is a lot of the guys Gravano killed were from his own crew while Gotti protected his own people and mainly took out guys outside of his circle.
Similar to the criticisms DeCarlo and Moretti made of Richie Boiardo who took out many men from his own crew over the years.
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It's something we wouldn't necessarily notice since all of these guys order murders but guys in the life would notice that a guy hurts his own people.
A lot of the mafia is supposed to be about advocating for the guys around you so when a guy doesn't do that it stands out. Could argue that Gotti even killed Castellano in part to protect Ruggiero, his brother, and Carneglia.
A lot of the mafia is supposed to be about advocating for the guys around you so when a guy doesn't do that it stands out. Could argue that Gotti even killed Castellano in part to protect Ruggiero, his brother, and Carneglia.
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Thought the last video DiLeonardo did was interesting. Funny Pete Gotti story … I’ll be happy to have DiLeonardo avoid the Graciani nonsense for awhile.
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Michael also says about jimmy brown and Danny Marino they were rite in a way. John gotti killed there boss. But I don't think they were in on the plot. I think them 2 weren't dummies and realized everyone suspected in on th big Paul hit was getting hit or it started . They figured they could sit back
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That’s his greatest move. He wasn’t betraying his brothers and he knew he’d prob get whacked right after anyway. Loyalty or him just being Machiavellian and cunning? Everything after that he fumbled with all the loud shit. But what a play.B. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:03 am It's something we wouldn't necessarily notice since all of these guys order murders but guys in the life would notice that a guy hurts his own people.
A lot of the mafia is supposed to be about advocating for the guys around you so when a guy doesn't do that it stands out. Could argue that Gotti even killed Castellano in part to protect Ruggiero, his brother, and Carneglia.
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Hey!! Bobby...what up....BobbyPazzo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:59 pmThat’s his greatest move. He wasn’t betraying his brothers and he knew he’d prob get whacked right after anyway. Loyalty or him just being Machiavellian and cunning? Everything after that he fumbled with all the loud shit. But what a play.B. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:03 am It's something we wouldn't necessarily notice since all of these guys order murders but guys in the life would notice that a guy hurts his own people.
A lot of the mafia is supposed to be about advocating for the guys around you so when a guy doesn't do that it stands out. Could argue that Gotti even killed Castellano in part to protect Ruggiero, his brother, and Carneglia.
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I dont mind when he discusses it, i get it..it was a big part of his experience. I'm not a fan of a handful of the subscribers that love jumping in on the "scammy" stuff because they think doing so is some inside joke, it's kind of silly and half the time I think theyre exaggerating things he's said just to add to the drama. I keep away from the live chat these days because of that.
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Im there for less about the sammy stuff and more the culture of cosa nostra. the nuances. i read that book five or six times and you only think of the surface. ive enjoyed taking a step back and understanding the nuances. who understood the life and who didnt based on actions.
and i like being around like minded folks. i think michael's energy attracts folks that are similar. i enjoy that.
and i like being around like minded folks. i think michael's energy attracts folks that are similar. i enjoy that.
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CHIRAQ what up my guy !?!?! Hope all is well brother. I’m gonna pm you so we can catch up.CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:14 amHey!! Bobby...what up....BobbyPazzo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:59 pmThat’s his greatest move. He wasn’t betraying his brothers and he knew he’d prob get whacked right after anyway. Loyalty or him just being Machiavellian and cunning? Everything after that he fumbled with all the loud shit. But what a play.B. wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:03 am It's something we wouldn't necessarily notice since all of these guys order murders but guys in the life would notice that a guy hurts his own people.
A lot of the mafia is supposed to be about advocating for the guys around you so when a guy doesn't do that it stands out. Could argue that Gotti even killed Castellano in part to protect Ruggiero, his brother, and Carneglia.
Most of you wouldn't be comfortable in my playground.