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He died in 1957, before 1963, but Charles Guidera could have been a member.

- He was arrested with Vincenzo Troia in 1929 for shooting Joe Gelosi and killing his 3-year old son Frank.

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- He had a bunch of other arrests largely for bootlegging

- He was born in Italy in ~1895

- He was married to a Mary Quartucco/Quartuccio
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Re: Madison 1963

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Yes, Guidera was very active in the early years but not sure what he did criminally after the 1930s. I have heard the Quartuccio name in Madison but can't remember how.
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I’m not aware that Charles Guidera was criminally active after 1930, but we also know that the Madison outfit had relatively little involvement in criminal activity after Prohibition. By 1950, Guidera was divorced, unable to work, and living in a boarding house, so he was probably destitute.

I’m pretty certain that he was Pasquale Guidera, born around 1891 in Piana dei Greci. Charles Guidera’s obituary in 1957 stated that he was 65 years old, and a Pasquale Guidera who was born about 1891 died in Madison in 1957. Pasquale Guidera immigrated via NYC in 1914, bound for Madison, but in 1917 was living in Freesport, IL.

The Quartuccios, like the Guideras, were Arbereshe from PDG (they also had ties to Freesport). There was a Nicola Quartuccio in Madison busted for stealing dozens of tuxedos in 1935. He may have been the brother of Maria Quartuccio. Neither surname appeared in the account of the membership of the Madison outfit given by Maniaci in the 60s/70s, but we know little about the membership there before this period, though we can assume there was always a small number of made guys.
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Re: Madison 1963

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PolackTony wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 6:09 pm I’m not aware that Charles Guidera was criminally active after 1930, but we also know that the Madison outfit had relatively little involvement in criminal activity after Prohibition. By 1950, Guidera was divorced, unable to work, and living in a boarding house, so he was probably destitute.

I’m pretty certain that he was Pasquale Guidera, born around 1891 in Piana dei Greci. Charles Guidera’s obituary in 1957 stated that he was 65 years old, and a Pasquale Guidera who was born about 1891 died in Madison in 1957. Pasquale Guidera immigrated via NYC in 1914, bound for Madison, but in 1917 was living in Freesport, IL.

The Quartuccios, like the Guideras, were Arbereshe from PDG (they also had ties to Freesport). There was a Nicola Quartuccio in Madison busted for stealing dozens of tuxedos in 1935. He may have been the brother of Maria Quartuccio. Neither surname appeared in the account of the membership of the Madison outfit given by Maniaci in the 60s/70s, but we know little about the membership there before this period, though we can assume there was always a small number of made guys.
Definitely Maniaci's knowledge of Madison especially in the early years was limited as he was not yet a made man. As for Freeport, there were active connected LCN guys there- Antonio Cannova, who we spoke about and I know the Tripodi brothers were living there for a time before moving to Rockford. They were connected to the Rockford Calcione brothers through marriage and the Calciones were all fronts for Rockford LCN interests. A deep dive into Freeport may be necessary in the future for me when I get time.
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There was a Mrs. John Quartucco who looks like she was involved in liquor with Guidera in 1925. She was arrested at the same time that the houses of Charles Guidera, Joe Mazzaro, and Joseph Licari were raided.

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This Joe Mazzaro wasn’t a rando either. He had liquor charges with Joe Stassi.

(https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/397406353/)

He was also arrested with a Dominic Manderino/Manderino and Jack & Carl Troia. Both of these last names were mentioned on the first page of this thread.

(https://www.newspapers.com/article/the- ... 125822439/)
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Re: Madison 1963

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JoelTurner wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:39 pm There was a Mrs. John Quartucco who looks like she was involved in liquor with Guidera in 1925. She was arrested at the same time that the houses of Charles Guidera, Joe Mazzaro, and Joseph Licari were raided.

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This Joe Mazzaro wasn’t a rando either. He had liquor charges with Joe Stassi.

(https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/397406353/)

He was also arrested with a Dominic Manderino/Manderino and Jack & Carl Troia. Both of these last names were mentioned on the first page of this thread.

(https://www.newspapers.com/article/the- ... 125822439/)
I'm unable to read the links as it asks me to sign up for a free trial but I'm curious if the Joe Stassi was the same as the Rockford LCN member who came to Rockford from Madison around 1918.
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I don’t believe it was the same guy, as the Rockford guy was from SGJ while the Madison Giuseppe Stassi was from PDG. Since the two comuni neighbor each other, they may well have been related. The Stassi surname is a lot more common in PDG than SGJ, so I suspect that the families in the latter may have originated in the former (presumably Arbereshe who intermarried with neighboring ethnic Sicilians).
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Here’s a possible member: Frank Danna

- Born on May 3 1877 in San Giuseppe Jato, Palermo, Sicily
- Was married to Marianna Geloso
- Lived next to door (918 Regent St) to Joseph Geloso (916 Regent St) who was shot by Vincenzo Troia and Charles Guidera
- Had a bunch of arrests for liquor but doesn’t appear to have been involved in crime after 1936
- Died on Aug 23 1973

(https://www.ancestry.ca/discoveryui-con ... 8695:60525)
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- Danna’s wife Marianna Geloso was related (sister?) to both Joseph Geloso and Domenica Geloso who was married to Callisto Cerro

- Marianna Geloso’s immigration:
(https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJN7-H2L)

- Domenica Geloso’s immigration:
(https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJVR-54D)
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Re: Madison 1963

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JoelTurner wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:31 pm Here’s a possible member: Frank Danna

- Born on May 3 1877 in San Giuseppe Jato, Palermo, Sicily
- Was married to Marianna Geloso
- Lived next to door (918 Regent St) to Joseph Geloso (916 Regent St) who was shot by Vincenzo Troia and Charles Guidera
- Had a bunch of arrests for liquor but doesn’t appear to have been involved in crime after 1936
- Died on Aug 23 1973

(https://www.ancestry.ca/discoveryui-con ... 8695:60525)
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- Danna’s wife Marianna Geloso was related (sister?) to both Joseph Geloso and Domenica Geloso who was married to Callisto Cerro

- Marianna Geloso’s immigration:
(https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJN7-H2L)

- Domenica Geloso’s immigration:
(https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJVR-54D)
I don't think Troia and Guidera shot Geloso, rather it was Andrew Presti who Geloso later killed and was sent to prison for.
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cavita wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:48 pm
JoelTurner wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:31 pm Here’s a possible member: Frank Danna

- Born on May 3 1877 in San Giuseppe Jato, Palermo, Sicily
- Was married to Marianna Geloso
- Lived next to door (918 Regent St) to Joseph Geloso (916 Regent St) who was shot by Vincenzo Troia and Charles Guidera
- Had a bunch of arrests for liquor but doesn’t appear to have been involved in crime after 1936
- Died on Aug 23 1973

(https://www.ancestry.ca/discoveryui-con ... 8695:60525)
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- Danna’s wife Marianna Geloso was related (sister?) to both Joseph Geloso and Domenica Geloso who was married to Callisto Cerro

- Marianna Geloso’s immigration:
(https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJN7-H2L)

- Domenica Geloso’s immigration:
(https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJVR-54D)
I don't think Troia and Guidera shot Geloso, rather it was Andrew Presti who Geloso later killed and was sent to prison for.
Interesting, why do you think that? I didn’t see him mentioned in any of the articles about the shooting.
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Re: Madison 1963

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There were many articles that stated Troia and Guidera were not responsible though Geloso did name Troia initially. When Presti was killed, cooperating witness, Sandra Livingston I believe her name was, mentioned Geloso and I believe a man named DiMaggio as Presti's killers because Geloso believed Presti killed Geloso's son.
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Re: Madison 1963

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During the 1964 Milwaukee consiglio meeting, they say that Madison only has one "lieutenant". They use the term caporegima / capodecina many times on the same recording and I'm sure they were using lieutenant to refer to that.

Any guesses who their only captain was?
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B. wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:16 pm During the 1964 Milwaukee consiglio meeting, they say that Madison only has one "lieutenant". They use the term caporegima / capodecina many times on the same recording and I'm sure they were using lieutenant to refer to that.

Any guesses who their only captain was?
Not the slightest clue, but if I had to guess I would say Cosmo DiSalvo.
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