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I could be wrong deluca said he became a informant in 06 for the state police in salemmes trial
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Did Manocchio sanction the hit on Deluca?
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Most likly
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If Charles Quintina is the consigliere to Frank Salemme during his reign as boss as mentioned in this article below. Does that mean that he knows Flemmi?

https://gangsterreport.com/the-double-h ... ank-in-89/
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davidf1989 wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:20 am If Charles Quintina is the consigliere to Frank Salemme during his reign as boss as mentioned in this article below. Does that mean that he knows Flemmi?

https://gangsterreport.com/the-double-h ... ank-in-89/
All of those guys knew Flemmi. They may not have had personal dealings but they all knew him. He was around 30+ years. Flemmi was prob known more in crime circles than Bulger.
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JakeTheSnake630 wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:19 am
davidf1989 wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:20 am If Charles Quintina is the consigliere to Frank Salemme during his reign as boss as mentioned in this article below. Does that mean that he knows Flemmi?

https://gangsterreport.com/the-double-h ... ank-in-89/
All of those guys knew Flemmi. They may not have had personal dealings but they all knew him. He was around 30+ years. Flemmi was prob known more in crime circles than Bulger.
Thanks for your message and I guess that both Flemmi and Mercurio were better informants compared with Bulger
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Does anyone know if Ferrara and Mercurio took orders from Joe Russo?
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Everyone took orders at that time from russo
He had the most power on the streets in Boston after the anguilos went away
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Eddie mush wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 4:00 am Everyone took orders at that time from russo
He had the most power on the streets in Boston after the anguilos went away
thanks Eddie so was Salemme a spy for Raymond Jr on the Boston Faction of the LCN
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davidf1989 wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 4:40 am
Eddie mush wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 4:00 am Everyone took orders at that time from russo
He had the most power on the streets in Boston after the anguilos went away
thanks Eddie so was Salemme a spy for Raymond Jr on the Boston Faction of the LCN
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What is the most recent info on NE size & crews?
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 4:52 pm What is the most recent info on NE size & crews?

Estimates from the mid-2000s had the family at 20-25 active and 10 inactive members in Boston with another dozen or so members in Providence. Not mentioned but they had at least 1 member in Connecticut. So a total membership in the 40s range. Probably less in 2022. Providence in particular is significantly reduced now.


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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 5:12 pm Estimates from the mid-2000s had the family at 20-25 active and 10 inactive members in Boston with another dozen or so members in Providence. Not mentioned but they had at least 1 member in Connecticut. So a total membership in the 40s range. Probably less in 2022. Providence in particular is significantly reduced now.
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So 3 crews at a guess? 2 in Bos 1 in Prov?
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 5:55 pm
Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 5:12 pm Estimates from the mid-2000s had the family at 20-25 active and 10 inactive members in Boston with another dozen or so members in Providence. Not mentioned but they had at least 1 member in Connecticut. So a total membership in the 40s range. Probably less in 2022. Providence in particular is significantly reduced now.
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So 3 crews at a guess? 2 in Bos 1 in Prov?

Even 1 full crew in Providence may be a stretch at this point. In 2011 the Feds said the Providence faction was decimated with only 1 or 2 active members. Today there are less than 10 members in Rhode Island and almost all of them are inactive. Though it is possible that the current UnderBoss (Eddie Lato) is out of Providence.


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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 5:12 pm Even 1 full crew in Providence may be a stretch at this point. In 2011 the Feds said the Providence faction was decimated with only 1 or 2 active members. Today there are less than 10 members in Rhode Island and almost all of them are inactive. Though it is possible that the current UnderBoss (Eddie Lato) is out of Providence.
Wow. So providence gone.

You'd have to assume 3 crews in Boston? Mid 2000's at 45ish, assume dropped by a third since then, leaves 30 members. Including inactive and imprisoned, 3 crews at 5/6 members ea and 15ish inactive/imprisoned/admin?

Fair guess?
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