Nicky Corozzo

[Wiseguy]

Ok thanks. Never heard of DiDonato. Did he say what year the warning was? Do you think there was 2 separate plots to possibly kill Jr.?

Andrew DiDonato was an associate in that crew. His book Surviving the Mob gives some good insights into the crew back in the 1980s and 1990s. Apparently there were two plots, one in the early 1990s and another in the mid 2000s.

[Frank]

Ok thanks. Never heard of DiDonato. Did he say what year the warning was? Do you think there was 2 separate plots to possibly kill Jr.?

Andrew DiDonato was an associate in that crew. His book Surviving the Mob gives some good insights into the crew back in the 1980s and 1990s. Apparently there were two plots, one in the early 1990s and another in the mid 2000s.

Ok thanks, I'll have to read that book. Did you really mean 2000s or around 96 - 97

[Wiseguy]

Ok thanks. Never heard of DiDonato. Did he say what year the warning was? Do you think there was 2 separate plots to possibly kill Jr.?

Andrew DiDonato was an associate in that crew. His book Surviving the Mob gives some good insights into the crew back in the 1980s and 1990s. Apparently there were two plots, one in the early 1990s and another in the mid 2000s.

Ok thanks, I'll have to read that book. Did you really mean 2000s or around 96 - 97

I was referring to the 2006 plot Alite mentioned in his book.

[Frank]

Ok thanks. Never heard of DiDonato. Did he say what year the warning was? Do you think there was 2 separate plots to possibly kill Jr.?

Andrew DiDonato was an associate in that crew. His book Surviving the Mob gives some good insights into the crew back in the 1980s and 1990s. Apparently there were two plots, one in the early 1990s and another in the mid 2000s.

Ok thanks, I'll have to read that book. Did you really mean 2000s or around 96 - 97

I was referring to the 2006 plot Alite mentioned in his book.

Ok, Alite mentioned one a few months after Srs conviction, one about 4 years later and one in the 2000s. I wasn't aware there was that many different time periods, providing that Alite is accurate.

[CabriniGreen]

Question....

If DiLeonardo was Consigliere to a boss who wasnt widely respected, how would that have affected his status?

Would he have been looked at as a lackey of Juniors?

Would people have viewed him as Juniors " brains", or alternatively as Junior's " Muscle"?

Was he respected as Consigliere in his own right? Like a power unto himself?

The claims by Alite about Corrozzo cant be easily dismissed....

Corrozzo reminds me off Gaspipe a little bit, in that his rank didnt reflect his actual power....

It may be correct that DiLeonardos closeness to the Gottis obscured his view of the families politics. It happens all the time... even to cops and journalist....

He might have been giving what he believed was an honest take on the situation....

[Frank]

Question....

If DiLeonardo was Consigliere to a boss who wasnt widely respected, how would that have affected his status?

Would he have been looked at as a lackey of Juniors?

Would people have viewed him as Juniors " brains", or alternatively as Junior's " Muscle"?

Was he respected as Consigliere in his own right? Like a power unto himself?

The claims by Alite about Corrozzo cant be easily dismissed....

Corrozzo reminds me off Gaspipe a little bit, in that his rank didnt reflect his actual power....

It may be correct that DiLeonardos closeness to the Gottis obscured his view of the families politics. It happens all the time... even to cops and journalist....

He might have been giving what he believed was an honest take on the situation....

I wouldn't dismiss what any of them said. It's all coming from their different perspectives.

[Frank]

Question....

If DiLeonardo was Consigliere to a boss who wasnt widely respected, how would that have affected his status?

Would he have been looked at as a lackey of Juniors?

Would people have viewed him as Juniors " brains", or alternatively as Junior's " Muscle"?

Was he respected as Consigliere in his own right? Like a power unto himself?

The claims by Alite about Corrozzo cant be easily dismissed....

Corrozzo reminds me off Gaspipe a little bit, in that his rank didnt reflect his actual power....

It may be correct that DiLeonardos closeness to the Gottis obscured his view of the families politics. It happens all the time... even to cops and journalist....

He might have been giving what he believed was an honest take on the situation....

From Scars view or knowledge of what happened could be that when he states Corozzo was never going to replace a Gotti, sounds like he is totally aware of the situation. Maybe he knew for sure fact that both Jr and or Sr we're not stepping down. Now when Scars says it was a rumour that Nicky basically started himself, maybe that is true, or maybe he never had the required permission of the Commission to either replace Snr or hit Jr. Maybe the Commission was split on it. From the Corozzo point of view, first it sounds like he doesn't know for sure he wants the job. Also maybe he was gaining support with the Commission and or within the Gambino Family, but overestimated that support. You got to wonder why it didn't happen before his indictments. What was the delay.

[bronx]

agree Frank, after nick's release he stays as a captain no more, pete is off street so are the gotti's both jr and sr, sr dead..jojo is taken down..a lot of people were from the outside were fed bad info on the nicky boss scenario.there are tapes of someone saying nicky is boss ..just a rumor someone passed along caught on tape.like this jerk saying on tape campos is going to move up..laughable..he is no boss material.not taking anything from nick.he is a tough guy..did he act like a boss ..absolutley

[johnny_scootch]

Now when Scars says it was a rumour that Nicky basically started himself, maybe that is true,

Scars said that? I must have missed it but it's like an epiphany for me because people here know I was one of the guys saying that Nicky was the boss and I was sure of it because it came from people around him that would know. Obviously they were wrong but it makes sense if Nicky started telling people that himself.

[Frank]

Now when Scars says it was a rumour that Nicky basically started himself, maybe that is true,

Scars said that? I must have missed it but it's like an epiphany for me because people here know I was one of the guys saying that Nicky was the boss and I was sure of it because it came from people around him that would know. Obviously they were wrong but it makes sense if Nicky started telling people that himself.

Yes it's on page 10 of the Scars q&a. Scars says DiMaria acted for Nicky, while Nicky was on the Committee. Nonsense about Nicky taking over, a rumour he started himself. No Gotti was stepping aside for anyone. It was Jr's and then Pete's Family back then. They only way Nicky could take over I'd if he killed Jr on the sneak. Its interesting, read it, to get the exact wording.

[johnny_scootch]

Now when Scars says it was a rumour that Nicky basically started himself, maybe that is true,

Scars said that? I must have missed it but it's like an epiphany for me because people here know I was one of the guys saying that Nicky was the boss and I was sure of it because it came from people around him that would know. Obviously they were wrong but it makes sense if Nicky started telling people that himself.

Yes it's on page 10 of the Scars q&a. Scars says DiMaria acted for Nicky, while Nicky was on the Committee. Nonsense about Nicky taking over, a rumour he started himself. No Gotti was stepping aside for anyone. It was Jr's and then Pete's Family back then. They only way Nicky could take over I'd if he killed Jr on the sneak. Its interesting, read it, to get the exact wording.

Yeah I read that interview when it was first posted on the site I guess it was to much to info at once to digest it all fully. Thank you.

[JeremyTheJew]

Now when Scars says it was a rumour that Nicky basically started himself, maybe that is true,

Scars said that? I must have missed it but it's like an epiphany for me because people here know I was one of the guys saying that Nicky was the boss and I was sure of it because it came from people around him that would know. Obviously they were wrong but it makes sense if Nicky started telling people that himself.

Yes it's on page 10 of the Scars q&a. Scars says DiMaria acted for Nicky, while Nicky was on the Committee. Nonsense about Nicky taking over, a rumour he started himself. No Gotti was stepping aside for anyone. It was Jr's and then Pete's Family back then. They only way Nicky could take over I'd if he killed Jr on the sneak. Its interesting, read it, to get the exact wording.

Yeah I read that interview when it was first posted on the site I guess it was to much to info at once to digest it all fully. Thank you.

Yes lots and lots of info that is hard to digest at once!! I missed that completely bc I was actually really interested in the Gallo/Persico crew having nothing to do w Anastia murder and it was a Gambino hitter.

What was the exact context when Gene Gotti was saying "Give it to him already. He earned it." I believe he was saying corozzo deserved to be boss. (Obviously he then was arrested) and who was Gene talking too??

Another interesting thing is back in the day when we had huge battles over Corozzo and Crea being bosses ( funny that TEN YEARS later we found out how wrong we were) ppl use to say "well Nicky is too smart for boss and he doesn't even want the spot." Turns out he completely did by starting the rumor himself!!

[Frank]

Now when Scars says it was a rumour that Nicky basically started himself, maybe that is true,

Scars said that? I must have missed it but it's like an epiphany for me because people here know I was one of the guys saying that Nicky was the boss and I was sure of it because it came from people around him that would know. Obviously they were wrong but it makes sense if Nicky started telling people that himself.

Yes it's on page 10 of the Scars q&a. Scars says DiMaria acted for Nicky, while Nicky was on the Committee. Nonsense about Nicky taking over, a rumour he started himself. No Gotti was stepping aside for anyone. It was Jr's and then Pete's Family back then. They only way Nicky could take over I'd if he killed Jr on the sneak. Its interesting, read it, to get the exact wording.

Yeah I read that interview when it was first posted on the site I guess it was to much to info at once to digest it all fully. Thank you.

Yes lots and lots of info that is hard to digest at once!! I missed that completely bc I was actually really interested in the Gallo/Persico crew having nothing to do w Anastia murder and it was a Gambino hitter.

What was the exact context when Gene Gotti was saying "Give it to him already. He earned it." I believe he was saying corozzo deserved to be boss. (Obviously he then was arrested) and who was Gene talking too??

Another interesting thing is back in the day when we had huge battles over Corozzo and Crea being bosses ( funny that TEN YEARS later we found out how wrong we were) ppl use to say "well Nicky is too smart for boss and he doesn't even want the spot." Turns out he completely did by starting the rumor himself!!

Your not reading deep enough in all the evidence. Corozzo at some point was saying he didn't know if he even wanted the job. It gets confusing, but it sounds like there was people that wanted Junior out, including Corozzo, but he wasn't sure if he wanted the job himself. Also wasn't there mention that Gotti gave him cash to back off? I'm thinking and at the time Scars wouldn't know because he was close to the Gotti's, that there was some sort of movement against one or both the Gottis, with Corozzo becoming boss, but the Gottis said no they weren't stepping down, and this move against Gotti didn't have enough support. Now the Gene and Pete part confuses me.

[JeremyTheJew]

Just happened to be listening at work to mob talk ( ... Wish there was other mafia pod cast) and in this episode at 28:10 he says

" Nicky corrozzo best friend Davino got busted with him stopping him from becomes boss."

The weird thing is he was saying Davino (??) Was gonna be boss lol.

I just don't get this fuckin guy.... Bitchin about rats etc.... How does he died other ppl doing exactly what he's doing!?

Oh same episode he talks shit about us ( and said gangsters bb ) thought it was funny

[gohnjotti]

I'm mainly curious about the extent of Corrozzo's presence/influence in New Jersey. Stefanelli was a longtime Newark figure reporting to the Corozzo crew after he was made and cooperated, and Corozzo had also gotten close to NJ associate/cooperator Vollaro though that was apparently a prison connection. We were talking recently about how Philly Newark captain Joe Licata was recorded speculating how the release of the Corozzo brothers and DiMaria would impact the Gambino power structure, which might not have anything to do with Corozzo's presence in NJ but at least shows that his influence made its way into NJ gossip.

It's not uncommon for NYC-based crews to have members/associates living and even operating in NJ, but the Corozzo crew doesn't have much of a history there that I know. Would be curious if other NJ members were assigned to that crew or if the Stefanelli and Vollaro situations were exceptions. Hopefully more of Stefanelli's information eventually becomes public despite the "complications" attached to it.

From what I can tell, the Corozzo is mainly a Brooklyn and Queens crew. Very little presence in Jersey.

In fact it may now be to the point where, when it comes to New Jersey, the only New York families that have actual crews based in the state are the Genovese and Lucchese families; and the latter only has one. One recent news report said the Gambinos and Bonannos have a presence (i.e. some members operating) there but seemed to differentiate between the other two families who have crews there. Of course, the Colombos weren't mentioned at all.

I would be surprised if there weren't dozens of New York soldiers who resided and hung out in New Jersey, without Jersey being the home of their formalized "crew." Or even New York-based soldiers who branched out into New Jersey either through legitimate or illegitimate enterprises. But I think for many families, like the Colombos, there isn't enough to make a Jersey-based crew.