Montagna's Epic Potential to Be Canada's Boss (scarpos claim montagna was aligned w the cartels)

[SonnyBlackstein]

Is Simpson that much to blame?
If Montagna hadn't run out of the house he may have disappeared and there's a reasonable chance the murder may be unsolved.
There was little anyone could do once Montagna ran out.
Everyone was fucked no matter Simpsons real or perceived stupidity.

[Lupara]

Is Simpson that much to blame?
If Montagna hadn't run out of the house he may have disappeared and there's a reasonable chance the murder may be unsolved.
There was little anyone could do once Montagna ran out.
Everyone was fucked no matter Simpsons real or perceived stupidity.

So it's Montagna's fault that it went wrong? Simpson shouldn't have given him a change to flee or get suspicious, he was an amateur and he fucked up and Desjardins fucked up by using him for the job.

[Chucky]

Is Simpson that much to blame?
If Montagna hadn't run out of the house he may have disappeared and there's a reasonable chance the murder may be unsolved.
There was little anyone could do once Montagna ran out.
Everyone was fucked no matter Simpsons real or perceived stupidity.

So it's Montagna's fault that it went wrong? Simpson shouldn't have given him a change to flee or get suspicious, he was an amateur and he fucked up and Desjardins fucked up by using him for the job.

Exactly, Montagna shouldn't have been able to get out of the house.

[Cheech]

Desjardin fucks up by not killing Simpson afterwards.

[SonnyBlackstein]

Is Simpson that much to blame?
If Montagna hadn't run out of the house he may have disappeared and there's a reasonable chance the murder may be unsolved.
There was little anyone could do once Montagna ran out.
Everyone was fucked no matter Simpsons real or perceived stupidity.

So it's Montagna's fault that it went wrong? Simpson shouldn't have given him a change to flee or get suspicious, he was an amateur and he fucked up and Desjardins fucked up by using him for the job.

You're trying to be cute but you're actually probably more correct in your sarcasm than you think.
Montagna at fault? Actually, yes.
When Montagna 'fled' he had at least one hole in him. Generally when you're shot you go down, you don't run around like a headless chicken. And he wasn't shot with a .22 either. He died shortly after.
How many mob hits do you recall where the guys been popped at least once and they run around for several minutes before biting the bullet (ahem)?
None that I recall.
So what happened with Montagna was unusual and hence can Simpson really be blamed for Montagna's response and the downfall it specifically ensured?
Generally when you get shot you collapse. That's not unreasonable to expect. The 100 yard dash in mob hit history is unusual. Can Simpson be blamed for not seeing it coming?
Personally I think he got unlucky and nine times out of ten Montagna goes down and this is most likely unsolved.
But it's all speculation. But you all seem like you 'know' the answer that 'Simpsons a moron' so what's the point.

[Lupara]

A professional would've shot him in the back of the head. Simpson clearly made Montagna feel suspicious and was probably forced to take a shot when Montagna tried to flee.

[Chucky]

Yeah I think Montagna was shot as he was fleeing, when his adrenaline was already pumping. Montagna's antennas were already up before meeting Simpson, my guess it wasn't long before he realized he was a dead man and took off.

[SonnyBlackstein]

Simpson clearly made Montagna feel suspicious and was probably forced to take a shot when Montagna tried to flee.

Desjardines had a contract out on Montagna and Montagna knew it. You don't think he's going to be slightly suspicious going to a meeting with his people? You think in those circumstances he's going to let people get behind him?
Personally I'm amazed they got Montagna to willingly go to a private location.

Montagna's stupidity and exiting the house are for me the hallmarks of this murder. Not particularly Simpson.

But I doubt I'll change anyone's mind.

[brianwellbrock]

Simpson clearly made Montagna feel suspicious and was probably forced to take a shot when Montagna tried to flee.

Desjardines had a contract out on Montagna and Montagna knew it. You don't think he's going to be slightly suspicious going to a meeting with his people? You think in those circumstances he's going to let people get behind him?
Personally I'm amazed they got Montagna to willingly go to a private location.

Montagna's stupidity and exiting the house are for me the hallmarks of this murder. Not particularly Simpson.

But I doubt I'll change anyone's mind.

Lol Sonny are you really blaming the guy for trying to run away? Maybe Montagna wasnt the brightest but its called sirvival instincts. He has a will to live like everyone else. I was shot in the ankle at fairly close range and managed to hop 2 fences and run and walk all the way home about a half mile. During it all I felt the burn but didnt realize it until I got home. Point being anything can go when you get shot. Its not the movies where yoi get hit from 500 meters and drop like a sack of potatoes going "ahhhhhhhhh"

[SonnyBlackstein]

You missed the point.

[Lupara]

Simpson clearly made Montagna feel suspicious and was probably forced to take a shot when Montagna tried to flee.

Desjardines had a contract out on Montagna and Montagna knew it. You don't think he's going to be slightly suspicious going to a meeting with his people? You think in those circumstances he's going to let people get behind him?

He clearly trusted Simpson enough to go with him to a meeting with Desjardins without a bodyguard. And they should've known that Montagna could become suspicious, for which they could have taken precautions in a well crafted murder plot.

[dixiemafia]

Damn is Montagna supposed to just sit there and take it? Anyone would have bailed had they known they had an exit like he did.

[toto]

You guys are crazy! Montagna must submit and go on his knees to be killed by TEAM CANADA.

"GO TEAM CANADA"

[SonnyBlackstein]

Ha.

Yeah, call me a fan boy for thinking it's not unreasonable to expect someone to collapse or fall down when you shoot them.

What a moron Simpson is for not knowing this.

He should've come to this forum where all you genius's know what happens, apparently, when you pop someone.

This fan boys done with this particular issue.

[Lupara]

Yeah, call me a fan boy for thinking it's not unreasonable to expect someone to collapse or fall down when you shoot them.

What a moron Simpson is for not knowing this.

He should've come to this forum where all you genius's know what happens, apparently, when you pop someone.

I'm far from an expert on the matter because I've never killed someone or even used a gun. But from a purely scientific perspective, there's a good change that if you shoot someone in the head the victim falls to the ground, while if you aim for the lower part of the body there's a good change the victim starts to run because of the adrenaline and the fact that he could still use his brain. A professional doesn't take changes, he kills with efficiency.

Like I said before, Simpson was likely Desjardins' best shot to get to Montagna. Clearly, he wanted Montagna to disappear so it would've been difficult to pinpoint the murder on anyone. He probably feared repercussions. Ofcourse, absolutely not by the beleaguered Bonanno family, they're a joke and unable to strike back when one of their own is killed. They aren't even able to put out a contract on someone anymore, nor would they care when their former acting boss and made member gets killed by a French-Canadian. They've better things to worry about, such as robbing hot dog vendors.