General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

[NorthBuffalo]

Was there any indication that this guy was still active in any way?

My source says this guy just hung out at his bar in Berwyn (Godsons) and gambled a lot - he didn't think so and he did a lot of prison time. I think as an ex-con, your options are limited. However I think and seem to pick up on the Chicago guys being smarter - often when they come home, they have investments (real estate, bars, etc.) that they can operate and make a buck. I think many of these guys kind of made money with the Outfit - went to prison and kept their mouth shut - and just stayed quiet and legit when they came home. I think its like a business, not some mob family you have to be part of. He says Vic Plescia is also out of prison and doing the same thing - living off the money he made from the rackets.

[Coloboy]

Was there any indication that this guy was still active in any way?

My source says this guy just hung out at his bar in Berwyn (Godsons) and gambled a lot - he didn't think so and he did a lot of prison time. I think as an ex-con, your options are limited. However I think and seem to pick up on the Chicago guys being smarter - often when they come home, they have investments (real estate, bars, etc.) that they can operate and make a buck. I think many of these guys kind of made money with the Outfit - went to prison and kept their mouth shut - and just stayed quiet and legit when they came home. I think its like a business, not some mob family you have to be part of. He says Vic Plescia is also out of prison and doing the same thing - living off the money he made from the rackets.

I get the sense that in the modern outfit, many of the businesses that members and associates setup back in the day solely as fronts to launder money through, are now long time legit businesses that can make money. Seemed like John Difronzo was a prime example of this. I have to wonder if a guy like Solly D makes more or just as much $$ legitimately as he does from the rackets. With that said, I imagine it's hard to beat the un-taxed, 100% cash payouts of the illegal enterprises.

[NorthBuffalo]

Was there any indication that this guy was still active in any way?

My source says this guy just hung out at his bar in Berwyn (Godsons) and gambled a lot - he didn't think so and he did a lot of prison time. I think as an ex-con, your options are limited. However I think and seem to pick up on the Chicago guys being smarter - often when they come home, they have investments (real estate, bars, etc.) that they can operate and make a buck. I think many of these guys kind of made money with the Outfit - went to prison and kept their mouth shut - and just stayed quiet and legit when they came home. I think its like a business, not some mob family you have to be part of. He says Vic Plescia is also out of prison and doing the same thing - living off the money he made from the rackets.

I get the sense that in the modern outfit, many of the businesses that members and associates setup back in the day solely as fronts to launder money through, are now long time legit businesses that can make money. Seemed like John Difronzo was a prime example of this. I have to wonder if a guy like Solly D makes more or just as much $$ legitimately as he does from the rackets. With that said, I imagine it's hard to beat the un-taxed, 100% cash payouts of the illegal enterprises.

I think in Chicago the most successful racket is getting your business to dominate through any means necessary. Like the DiFronzos and D&P - you know they bribed and threatened their way into dominance - or Joe Andriacchi. These guys were thieves and ex-cons - kind of coincidental them becoming construction tycoons through hard work and know how - I expect they broke every rule in the book, fucked honest people over and ruined a lot of lives (if not worse). As the business became the dominant enterprise, they stopped having to do the dirty work and just collected the money while their relatives and next generation took over.

[B.]

That's always been the mafia's best "racket" wherever the mafia exists. Not unique to Chicago or America for that matter.

[NorthBuffalo]

That's always been the mafia's best "racket" wherever the mafia exists. Not unique to Chicago or America for that matter.

It's rare a boss controlling a multimillion dollar legitimate company until his death - Crea, Todaro, etc. - a few have done it but its rare in the more modern era. I think its amazing these DiFronzo brothers never got caught with bid rigging etc. - no one can even name Andriacchi's former company, though I've started to hear and read about developments he was responsible for building. It's quite impressive when you think about it.

[Coloboy]

That's always been the mafia's best "racket" wherever the mafia exists. Not unique to Chicago or America for that matter.

It's rare a boss controlling a multimillion dollar legitimate company until his death - Crea, Todaro, etc. - a few have done it but its rare in the more modern era. I think its amazing these DiFronzo brothers never got caught with bid rigging etc. - no one can even name Andriacchi's former company, though I've started to hear and read about developments he was responsible for building. It's quite impressive when you think about it.

The Andriacchi construction company thing is interesting. Anyone else remember when he filed for bankruptcy 10-15 years ago? Fosco used it as fodder for his “difronzo destroyed the EP crew” narrative. I never bought that. The bankruptcy seemed like a very shrewd guy taking advantage of the system, while secretly rolling in large amounts of illegal and hidden cash. The government forgives all your legal “debts”, and he looks poor on paper

[cavita]

Can anyone fill in any of the redacted parts in this 1993 OC file on Chicago? I do know the one that mentions Oak Park and River Forest is Carmine Esposito but how about the others? Particularly the one involved with John Cerone, Jr.

[Snakes]

Can anyone fill in any of the redacted parts in this 1993 OC file on Chicago? I do know the one that mentions Oak Park and River Forest is Carmine Esposito but how about the others? Particularly the one involved with John Cerone, Jr.

The one associated with Cerone Jr. may be Tony Spavone's father. I remember Tony saying he had ties to Italian OC, but I can't remember if it was Mafia or Camorra.

[cavita]

Can anyone fill in any of the redacted parts in this 1993 OC file on Chicago? I do know the one that mentions Oak Park and River Forest is Carmine Esposito but how about the others? Particularly the one involved with John Cerone, Jr.

The one associated with Cerone Jr. may be Tony Spavone's father. I remember Tony saying he had ties to Italian OC, but I can't remember if it was Mafia or Camorra.

But was he a capo in Nuova Famiglia with residences in Brooklyn and Chicago?

[Snakes]

Can anyone fill in any of the redacted parts in this 1993 OC file on Chicago? I do know the one that mentions Oak Park and River Forest is Carmine Esposito but how about the others? Particularly the one involved with John Cerone, Jr.

The one associated with Cerone Jr. may be Tony Spavone's father. I remember Tony saying he had ties to Italian OC, but I can't remember if it was Mafia or Camorra.

But was he a capo in Nuova Famiglia with residences in Brooklyn and Chicago?

Ah, may not be him, then.

[PolackTony]

Can anyone fill in any of the redacted parts in this 1993 OC file on Chicago? I do know the one that mentions Oak Park and River Forest is Carmine Esposito but how about the others? Particularly the one involved with John Cerone, Jr.

The one associated with Cerone Jr. may be Tony Spavone's father. I remember Tony saying he had ties to Italian OC, but I can't remember if it was Mafia or Camorra.

But was he a capo in Nuova Famiglia with residences in Brooklyn and Chicago?

Ah, may not be him, then.

I’ve written a couple of times about Camorrista Antonio Spavone, Tony Spavone’s uncle and namesake. He was like an elder statesman of sorts for the “Nuova Famiglia” (the media moniker for the Nuova Fratallenza Napolitana) and had close ties to both Chicago and NYC (specifically, to Funzi Tieri and Cerone) and lived in the US for a number of years. I’ve discussed this previously, but he was almost certainly the redacted name that Cavita is inquiring about in the 1993 FBI IOC in IL report:

There is info in this thread about Spavone and Chicago, if you're interested. He was most likely identified by the FBI in 1993 as a redacted "capo" of the "Nuova Famiglia" with ties to Chicago LCN. After he was shot in the 1970s he traveled to the US for reconstructive surgeries. I was able to confirm that he spent at least part of that time in Chicago, where he seems to have owned a restaurant, as did his brother, Giuseppe Spavone. Nephew Tony Spavone is a very well-known Chicago restauranteur and singer with mob ties, with it even being rumored that his restaurant was used for making ceremonies in the past. The thread also discusses Carmine Esposito, a fugitive from Acerra captured in Chicago who was said to have been one of the principal figures in the NCO.

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[Snakes]

Thanks, Tony -- so he was a Camorra guy

[PolackTony]

Thanks, Tony -- so he was a Camorra guy

Yes. He was a very well-known figure back in Naples. Antonio Spavone, ‘o malommo (“the badman”, a nickname he had inherited from his elder brother Carmine Spavone, who was killed in a feud in Naples when they were younger). His younger brother was Giuseppe Spavone, father of the Chicagoland singing restaurateur Tony Spavone. If anyone is interested in more, check out the link to the Chicago “zips” thread that I posted above.

[cavita]

Can anyone fill in any of the redacted parts in this 1993 OC file on Chicago? I do know the one that mentions Oak Park and River Forest is Carmine Esposito but how about the others? Particularly the one involved with John Cerone, Jr.

The one associated with Cerone Jr. may be Tony Spavone's father. I remember Tony saying he had ties to Italian OC, but I can't remember if it was Mafia or Camorra.

But was he a capo in Nuova Famiglia with residences in Brooklyn and Chicago?

Ah, may not be him, then.

I’ve written a couple of times about Camorrista Antonio Spavone, Tony Spavone’s uncle and namesake. He was like an elder statesman of sorts for the “Nuova Famiglia” (the media moniker for the Nuova Fratallenza Napolitana) and had close ties to both Chicago and NYC (specifically, to Funzi Tieri and Cerone) and lived in the US for a number of years. I’ve discussed this previously, but he was almost certainly the redacted name that Cavita is inquiring about in the 1993 FBI IOC in IL report:

There is info in this thread about Spavone and Chicago, if you're interested. He was most likely identified by the FBI in 1993 as a redacted "capo" of the "Nuova Famiglia" with ties to Chicago LCN. After he was shot in the 1970s he traveled to the US for reconstructive surgeries. I was able to confirm that he spent at least part of that time in Chicago, where he seems to have owned a restaurant, as did his brother, Giuseppe Spavone. Nephew Tony Spavone is a very well-known Chicago restauranteur and singer with mob ties, with it even being rumored that his restaurant was used for making ceremonies in the past. The thread also discusses Carmine Esposito, a fugitive from Acerra captured in Chicago who was said to have been one of the principal figures in the NCO.

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Thanks buddy, I was wondering why I never saw your original post on this and then I looked at the date- I was on vacation during that time!

[NorthBuffalo]

Interesting background as that name was all over Fosco's forum. I'm told Tony Spavone was commenting for a long time there bc Fosco would mock him (not sure his pseudonym). You can see this clip of his restaurant from the 1990s and a clip of his old man about halfway in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fp5MIr8wSo