John DiFronzo

[Lupara]

Is there any recent irrefutable evidence of the Chicago Outfit still being a viable, active organization? Seems really quiet there last few years and I wonder if there is still an admin with structure..

[FriendofFamily]

If you are looking for irrefutable proof like an indictment then - no evidence yet

If you want to know is it still viable the answer is yes and it has enough structure and there are enough meetings that I know exist

The 26th Street Crew and Grand Ave Crew have the most activity but that doesn't mean in dollars - what I mean by that is the Illegal money is multiplied once it is invested in the legal business

Much is in legit business and covering the trail.

I offer no proof

[eboli]

I've read some claims over the years DiFronzo intentionally tanked that family and didn't induct any members after the family secrets trial. Any truth to this?

[Snakes]

Nobody has any proof of that. A lot of what's passed off as "fact" concerning the "modern" Outfit is actually garbage from the old ANP message board days. If Fosco ever signed off on a theory as "possible" then idiots like The Don and others ran with it as fact.

[Frank]

There have been a few indictments in the last 5 to 7 years. Just last year John Matassa was indicted. Most members are at least 60 or older. Of course we don't know if new younger members have been made. There was talk that Boss Mike Sarno made some new members about 10 years ago. With Sarno going to prison these new members clashed with some older members. It was reported that Solly DiLaurentis was the man the DiFronzo Bros. turned to, to straighten out the problem. He reportedly straightened it out. Not sure if he was boss then and then or promoted after.

[Lupara]

If you are looking for irrefutable proof like an indictment then - no evidence yet

If you want to know is it still viable the answer is yes and it has enough structure and there are enough meetings that I know exist

If there is no recent evidence then the answer isn't simply yes.

To me Chicago seems to be like Detroit at this point. Some oldtimers left with connections but lacking a presence on the streets.

[Frank]

The new FBI guy in Chicago last year mentioned going after the Outfit.

[Pete]

Calabrese also stated that DiFronzo not only was there but he was BEATING on the Spilotro Brothers in the Bensenville House. In addition to what Calabrese stated, the whole scene was a FAKE MAKING CEREMONY and it would be logical for DiFronzo to be there for that type of thing. Sooooo for all the Nick Calabrese fans who said he was the greatest witness possible, it seems REAL STRANGE that the Feds wouldn't ever indict DiFronzo in a Family Secrets II since the Jury believed EVERYTHING Calabrese said in his testimony AND DiFronzo was convicted in 1993 on even less evidence. Real strange.

If you read calabreses actual testimony ferriola, carlisi, and difronzo were upstairs with marcello. Marino, eboli, and calabrese were in the basement as well as 3 guys nick didn’t know waiting for the spilotros. When the spilotros got there they said hello upstairs then came down and were ambushed. Marino, eboli, and calabrese killed Michael, the other 3 guys killed tony. After they were dead difronzo came downstairs and went through Michaels pockets and found a pistol which nick took from him because difronzo couldn’t figure out how to unload it.he never once mentions carlisi, ferriola, or difronzo actually participating in the actual killing in his testimony. But calabrese also testified Marino helped killed Michael and he was never charged also for lack of evidence and was released from prison and died at home

[Wiseguy]

Snakes do you think DiFronzo was a CI. I tend to not believe that he was. I think Joe Fosco started that rumour. Fosco seems to have a few axes to grind with DiFronzo. Like you say DiFronzo kept himself well insulated. I think he only talked to and gave orders to people he could trust.

The allegations of two high level informants were included in court filings by the defense in the Sarno case so I imagine it was more than just what Fosco said on his blog.

Maybe he was collecting tribute, but no talking business.

If I remember right, in the Sarno case one guy testified that Frank Caruso was kicking up to Sarno, who in turn was kicking up to DiFronzo.

Is there any recent irrefutable evidence of the Chicago Outfit still being a viable, active organization? Seems really quiet there last few years and I wonder if there is still an admin with structure..

The feds still consider Chicago one of the few remaining viable families outside New York. It's not where Detroit is yet but possibly closer than some think. And we have still seen indictments, albeit at a much slower pace. Like Marcello and Sarno before, we will only get an idea of the administration in a future indictment.

[Confederate]

Snakes do you think DiFronzo was a CI. I tend to not believe that he was. I think Joe Fosco started that rumour. Fosco seems to have a few axes to grind with DiFronzo. Like you say DiFronzo kept himself well insulated. I think he only talked to and gave orders to people he could trust.

The allegations of two high level informants were included in court filings by the defense in the Sarno case so I imagine it was more than just what Fosco said on his blog.

Maybe he was collecting tribute, but no talking business.

If I remember right, in the Sarno case one guy testified that Frank Caruso was kicking up to Sarno, who in turn was kicking up to DiFronzo.

Is there any recent irrefutable evidence of the Chicago Outfit still being a viable, active organization? Seems really quiet there last few years and I wonder if there is still an admin with structure..

The feds still consider Chicago one of the few remaining viable families outside New York. It's not where Detroit is yet but possibly closer than some think. And we have still seen indictments, albeit at a much slower pace. Like Marcello and Sarno before, we will only get an idea of the administration in a future indictment.

Agreed. In addition, the recruiting ground of Chicago is not the same as the recruiting ground in Philly. The next 3 Families to be gone will be Detroit, New England and Chicago. Philly and New Jersey will still be around 10 years from now. Any younger Italian American man in Chicago would have to be out of his mind to want to join what's left of the Outfit in 2018.

[Villain]

The Outfit's top admin went "Godfather" style aka semi-legit

[Confederate]

The Outfit's top admin went "Godfather" style aka semi-legit

The Elmwood Park guys were the only smart ones left in the Outfit. John DiFronzo, Pete DiFronzo Joe Andriacchi etc. They saw the writing on the wall several years ago. LOL

[Villain]

The Outfit's top admin went "Godfather" style aka semi-legit

The Elmwood Park guys were the only smart ones left in the Outfit. John DiFronzo, Pete DiFronzo Joe Andriacchi etc. They saw the writing on the wall several years ago. LOL

I agree

[Lupara]

The Outfit's top admin went "Godfather" style aka semi-legit

The Elmwood Park guys were the only smart ones left in the Outfit. John DiFronzo, Pete DiFronzo Joe Andriacchi etc. They saw the writing on the wall several years ago. LOL

I agree

You didn't need to be very smart to see those writings on the wall, they were very obvious. The families outside of NY were in a notable decline since the 80s or even earlier.

[Lupara]

The feds still consider Chicago one of the few remaining viable families outside New York. It's not where Detroit is yet but possibly closer than some think. And we have still seen indictments, albeit at a much slower pace. Like Marcello and Sarno before, we will only get an idea of the administration in a future indictment.

When was the last time the feds made that statement? A lot can happen in just a few years time.