Chicago Outfit Lineage Chart 1928-2017

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Re: Chicago Outfit Lineage Chart 1928-2017

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So according to this Andriacchi was the top boss from 2010 or from DiFronzos alleged retirement, until 2015 or 16 and was succeeded by Marco D'Amico. With that Solly D became the boss after Sarno, with Cataudella as his underboss and both hold the positions even today. So what about Vena, meaning he either took Solly Ds place or he is something between the top administration and the rest of the group? In plane words, D'Amico and Solly D are possibly holding the same positions as Accardo and Ricca
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Just my opinion and I can't confirm other things that I would like yet. Solly D is the Man in Chicago I don't know what D'Amico status is exactly - just adviser for all I've been able to get. Vena is Street Boss and runs Grand Ave.
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Villain wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:42 am So according to this Andriacchi was the top boss from 2010 or from DiFronzos alleged retirement, until 2015 or 16 and was succeeded by Marco D'Amico. With that Solly D became the boss after Sarno, with Cataudella as his underboss and both hold the positions even today. So what about Vena, meaning he either took Solly Ds place or he is something between the top administration and the rest of the group? In plane words, D'Amico and Solly D are possibly holding the same positions as Accardo and Ricca
I wouldn't think too hard on it. I'm not sure if it will ever be accurately figured out. The further away we get, the more we will know.
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Villain wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:42 am So according to this Andriacchi was the top boss from 2010 or from DiFronzos alleged retirement, until 2015 or 16 and was succeeded by Marco D'Amico. With that Solly D became the boss after Sarno, with Cataudella as his underboss and both hold the positions even today. So what about Vena, meaning he either took Solly Ds place or he is something between the top administration and the rest of the group? In plane words, D'Amico and Solly D are possibly holding the same positions as Accardo and Ricca
That's interesting. Where did this information come from.
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@Frank I created that possible, or another theory from Snake's previous post regarding the Outfit's timeline.

@Snakes my sole point on this project is to literally stir shit up regarding the Outfit's hierarchy from the late 1920's till now, meaning there's not even one Outfit chart out there, in that kind of style, except for your old charts, the one from Chris, and also the ones regarding the hierarchy from the 2000's or 2010's and onward, which were also made by people from this forum. So if we throw this chart out there, no matter if its not completely accurate, I still think that we can turn the attention of some of the older researchers and create our own theory. Obviously in time we have our own right to change our project if something new comes up, but my personal opinion is, and Ill bet on it, that this chart will be at least 90% accurate... I mean if someone asks, we have documents or reports to back our opinion during most of the timeline
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Love your new avatar. :mrgreen:


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Pogo The Clown wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:18 pm Love your new avatar. :mrgreen:


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Villain wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:59 pm @Frank I created that possible, or another theory from Snake's previous post regarding the Outfit's timeline.

@Snakes my sole point on this project is to literally stir shit up regarding the Outfit's hierarchy from the late 1920's till now, meaning there's not even one Outfit chart out there, in that kind of style, except for your old charts, the one from Chris, and also the ones regarding the hierarchy from the 2000's or 2010's and onward, which were also made by people from this forum. So if we throw this chart out there, no matter if its not completely accurate, I still think that we can turn the attention of some of the older researchers and create our own theory. Obviously in time we have our own right to change our project if something new comes up, but my personal opinion is, and Ill bet on it, that this chart will be at least 90% accurate... I mean if someone asks, we have documents or reports to back our opinion during most of the timeline
Yes it can always be updated. Also I think you proved with evidence that the Outfit does in fact have a top boss or two plus an operational boss. With the informant calling one the Man and the other the Boss.
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Frank wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:57 pm
Villain wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:59 pm @Frank I created that possible, or another theory from Snake's previous post regarding the Outfit's timeline.

@Snakes my sole point on this project is to literally stir shit up regarding the Outfit's hierarchy from the late 1920's till now, meaning there's not even one Outfit chart out there, in that kind of style, except for your old charts, the one from Chris, and also the ones regarding the hierarchy from the 2000's or 2010's and onward, which were also made by people from this forum. So if we throw this chart out there, no matter if its not completely accurate, I still think that we can turn the attention of some of the older researchers and create our own theory. Obviously in time we have our own right to change our project if something new comes up, but my personal opinion is, and Ill bet on it, that this chart will be at least 90% accurate... I mean if someone asks, we have documents or reports to back our opinion during most of the timeline
Yes it can always be updated. Also I think you proved with evidence that the Outfit does in fact have a top boss or two plus an operational boss. With the informant calling one the Man and the other the Boss.
There are reports in which both Ricca and Giancana were being asked or advised regarding commission problems and in fact we have Ricca going back and forth to NY from the late 1920's until mid 1960's.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... ana%20vito
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That stuff is gold.
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Tommy Brown had a lot of power, a lot.
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Frank wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:57 pm That stuff is gold.
You're welcome Frank
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AlexfromSouth wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:13 pm Tommy Brown had a lot of power, a lot.
Giancana, Vito, Tommy and Bonanno were all one side until the day Bonanno departed from the pact out of reasons such as the Banana conflict. I remember one doc in which Accardo previously instructed or talked about with Giancana regarding the pact and there are also several docs such as the previous one, meaning during the conflict in which we can also see the same situation
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Here's one doc which states that in 1970 Ricca still had the last word

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 6&tab=page
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Villain wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:38 am Here's one doc which states that in 1970 Ricca still had the last word

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 6&tab=page
Nice!
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