“Mafia Takedown” by Mike Campi

[OcSleeper]

He didn't say Muscarella was boss or leaned that way, just said Bellomo is in Florida a lot and if he was smart he would step away, like Catena did, and if he did, he could see Muscarella filling the role. Starts at 1:04:07.

[TSNYC]

One silly criticism I had of the book was Campi’s constant mentioning how D’urso was being groomed for a leadership position in the family. There’d be some innocuous event or occurrence and he’d say how this showed how Barney et al viewed him as a future leader, however the guy never got made.

D’urso clearly had an important role as an associate and managed to meet with a lot of high ranking guys I just find it unnecessary to overhype his status that way.

[Wiseguy]

I’d say everything points to Ernie being the boss, with Ragusa being next up. Bellomo is pretty obviously the fat Tony character with Ernie as the chin.

Also, Ernie is indeed a ghost. There is one lone mugshot of him that exists, and that is literally it. Him attending some party doesn’t mean anything. There was that photo of bellomo posing with Ragusa at a party as well.

Bellomo: lighting rod for Ernie

While it wouldn't be a huge leap to imagine Muscarella being the boss if Bellomo were to step down, there's nothing pointing to that outside of Cicale. Some are simply floating that idea the way people on the forums years ago used to insist (incorrectly) that Nick Corozzo was the real Gambino boss. And what in Bellomo's history would possibly lead you to believe he is just a lightning rod front boss?

Sounds as though catena stepped away thus possibly appointing Muscarella as official #1

What? Catena was long retired and out of the leadership for years (decades really) by the time Muscarella became acting boss in the late 1990s/early 2000s. There were several guys (Lombardo, Gigante, Salerno, Bellomo, Cirillo) in the boss or acting boss positions before Muscarella was even in the picture.

He didn't say Muscarella was boss or leaned that way, just said Bellomo is in Florida a lot and if he was smart he would step away, like Catena did, and if he did, he could see Muscarella filling the role. Starts at 1:04:07.

I watched it and, yeah, the title of the video was pure clickbait by Nadu. It's like Nadu already had his theory in his head and is trying to hold up something Campi didn't say to validate it.

[chin_gigante]

Yeah, I just finished the podcast there. Definitely a clickbait title. It’s clear from the context that what Campi is talking about is who would take over if Bellomo stepped down.

If Barney was bright, which I think he is a bright guy, stepping away would be the wise thing to do. I could see Ernie is low key, Ernie is experienced, Ernie’s got decades there. He’s a quiet type of guy. I could see an Ernie in that capacity. I can’t, definitely not a Patty (Falcetti). I don’t see why you would have (Michael) Ragusa in that capacity…Dominick (Cicale) to me has an appreciation I would say for Ernie…and the Genovese family. I think he wishes he was never released to Vinny Basciano.

There’s also an interesting exchange about Cicale.

Nadu: When you instruct someone, ‘Hey, there’s an active contract out on your life.’ You don’t tell them who it’s coming from, right?

Campi: Yeah, no. No.

Nadu: Because Dominick has claimed recently in a livestream that he was recently told by the FBI that certain people, and he named the people, have an active contract out on him. And I said there’s no way they’re ever gonna tell you where it’s coming from.

Campi: No. But that – I mean, I think committing the murders now in an organised crime, it would be counter-productive.

[moneyman]

Nadu clearly hasn't been around long enough to experience "Corozzo is the boss of the Gambinos" or "Crea is the real boss of the Lucchese" bullshit.

At least during Buster Ardito wiretaps - Muscarella isn't this shadowy figure, he is clearly in the mix on a day to day basis, talking to the admin and other captains, sending messages through his son in law. Maybe he is good at avoiding getting his picture taken.

Interesting to note both Flacetti and Muscarella own houses on the same block in Locust Point, Bronx.

[PolackTony]

Nadu clearly hasn't been around long enough to experience "Corozzo is the boss of the Gambinos" or "Crea is the real boss of the Lucchese" bullshit.

At least during Buster Ardito wiretaps - Muscarella isn't this shadowy figure, he is clearly in the mix on a day to day basis, talking to the admin and other captains, sending messages through his son in law. Maybe he is good at avoiding getting his picture taken.

Interesting to note both Flacetti and Muscarella own houses on the same block in Locust Point, Bronx.

Yup and Locust Point is also the nicest/highest status subsection of Throggs Neck proper.

[Tonyd621]

I’d say everything points to Ernie being the boss, with Ragusa being next up. Bellomo is pretty obviously the fat Tony character with Ernie as the chin.

Also, Ernie is indeed a ghost. There is one lone mugshot of him that exists, and that is literally it. Him attending some party doesn’t mean anything. There was that photo of bellomo posing with Ragusa at a party as well.

Bellomo: lighting rod for Ernie

While it wouldn't be a huge leap to imagine Muscarella being the boss if Bellomo were to step down, there's nothing pointing to that outside of Cicale. Some are simply floating that idea the way people on the forums years ago used to insist (incorrectly) that Nick Corozzo was the real Gambino boss. And what in Bellomo's history would possibly lead you to believe he is just a lightning rod front boss?

Sounds as though catena stepped away thus possibly appointing Muscarella as official #1

What? Catena was long retired and out of the leadership for years (decades really) by the time Muscarella became acting boss in the late 1990s/early 2000s. There were several guys (Lombardo, Gigante, Salerno, Bellomo, Cirillo) in the boss or acting boss positions before Muscarella was even in the picture.

He didn't say Muscarella was boss or leaned that way, just said Bellomo is in Florida a lot and if he was smart he would step away, like Catena did, and if he did, he could see Muscarella filling the role. Starts at 1:04:07.

I watched it and, yeah, the title of the video was pure clickbait by Nadu. It's like Nadu already had his theory in his head and is trying to hold up something Campi didn't say to validate it.

Nadu was a day late and a dollar short to this interview. His ego can not handle it, so he has to invent some new information he got or something he was right about along and is framing the narrative around that.

[The Greek]

Jeff Nadu is saying today that Muscarella is 100% the boss based on:

1. His Mike Campi interview
2. A made Genovese guy that told him.
3. Cicale thinks so

thoughts?

[TommyGambino]

Nadu is retarded

[Wiseguy]

Jeff Nadu is saying today that Muscarella is 100% the boss based on:

1. His Mike Campi interview
2. A made Genovese guy that told him.
3. Cicale thinks so

thoughts?

1. As stated above, the Campi interview didn't really lend to that. Campi thinking it would be wise for Bellomo to step down and live out his years in retirement the way Catena did doesn't automatically mean Bellomo has done that.

2. What made Genovese guy has told Nadu this?

3. Cicale's opinion has to be taken for how much it's worth. Has he stated why he thinks this? Is he still in communication with some people in the life who would know and volunteer that information or is he speculating?

Muscarella would be an obvious guy to take over if Bellomo were to step down but I'm not going to take Nadu's or even Cicale's word for it.

[The Greek]

Jeff Nadu is saying today that Muscarella is 100% the boss based on:

1. His Mike Campi interview
2. A made Genovese guy that told him.
3. Cicale thinks so

thoughts?

1. As stated above, the Campi interview didn't really lend to that. Campi thinking it would be wise for Bellomo to step down and live out his years in retirement the way Catena did doesn't automatically mean Bellomo has done that.

2. What made Genovese guy has told Nadu this?

3. Cicale's opinion has to be taken for how much it's worth. Has he stated why he thinks this? Is he still in communication with some people in the life who would know and volunteer that information or is he speculating?

Muscarella would be an obvious guy to take over if Bellomo were to step down but I'm not going to take Nadu's or even Cicale's word for it.

agreed

[aray22]

Capeci had Bellomo as the boss on gangland Thursday.

[JohnnyS]

2. What made Genovese guy has told Nadu this?

Stevie Westside.

[Wiseguy]

Jeff Nadu is saying today that Muscarella is 100% the boss based on:

1. His Mike Campi interview
2. A made Genovese guy that told him.
3. Cicale thinks so

thoughts?

I watched his latest video and his basic argument is Muscarella is a "ghost" so that must mean he's pulling a Chin. Nadu claims the Genovese family has always done the front boss thing since the beginning when that's not true. Then he lies again about Campi saying something he didn't.

[sdeitche]

Sounds as though catena stepped away thus possibly appointing Muscarella as official #1

What? Catena was long retired and out of the leadership for years (decades really) by the time Muscarella became acting boss in the late 1990s/early 2000s. There were several guys (Lombardo, Gigante, Salerno, Bellomo, Cirillo) in the boss or acting boss positions before Muscarella

Yeah, was going to say same. Catena was out of leadership by early 1980s and full time in Florida. He was still consulted on odds and ends for a couple more years, but in an unofficial capacity. He was totally out for quite a while by the time of his death in 2000.