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Pogo The Clown wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 7:52 pm Here is a column that Caepci wrote up on the plots to whack Lombardo.

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By Jerry Capeci

Mob Prince Plotted To Whack Aging Colombo Capo


Colombo wiseguy Ralph “The Old Man” Lombardo has led a very charmed life.

First, the 80-year-old capo survived the Korean War. Then he skated through a couple of internal mob family feuds that left a score of dead bodies on the streets of New York. And in the past few years, he has evaded not one, but two assassination plots against him that were hatched by top executives of his violent crime family.

Having survived all that, Lombardo would normally be viewed today as a major player for his battered borghata. After all, the ranks of veteran Colombo family men who haven’t flipped or been flopped by the FBI lately is pretty thin. And senior statesman Lombardo has already shown leadership skills, having served on a panel of capos that helped run the family during times of strife in the late 1990s.

But in another example of its seemingly endless ability to take its best shots at its own feet, the Colombo family can’t seem to decide whether to whack Lombardo or to promote him.

This mob indecision surfaced recently in newly uncovered court documents which reveal that the mob honcho who caused much of the family turmoil back then, Alphonse Persico, was also the prime mover in the plots to kill Lombardo in the 1990s. The documents also suggest that wiseguys might still be sneaking around looking to kill the old man.

Either way, though, it’s hats off to Ralph Lombardo. He not only kept his name out of the newspapers – and Gang Land until now – he also escaped the massive Mafia Takedown that snared 127 mobsters and associates in January. And through wisdom or dumb luck, he evaded a cutthroat trio of murderous mob leaders who wanted him dead, according to court papers.

“He always was a low-key guy,” said one Gang Land source, noting that Lombardo managed to avoid taking part in any wartime strategy sessions for either of the two rival factions during the bloody Colombo war that left 12 dead from 1991 to 1993.

Indeed, one FBI report from that time-frame has him as a Persico loyalist; another has him aligned with the upstart rebels under then-acting boss Victor (Little Vic) Orena.

Lombardo earned his mob stripes in Middle Village, Queens under Joe Colombo crony Vincent Aloi during the 1960s and ‘70s. Following five years behind bars for a 1974 stock fraud conviction, he relocated to North Babylon, while maintaining a social club in Middle Village. The club’s gone now, and Lombardo has since hunkered down in Bellmore.

In late 1999, shortly after Allie Persico orchestrated the killing of then-underboss William (Wild Bill) Cutolo, the imprisoned mob prince set in motion a sinister murder plot against Lombardo for imagined – or cunningly contrived assertions – that he was a snitch, according to papers filed last month against onetime Colombo street boss Thomas (Tommy Shots) Gioeli.

In the papers, prosecutors wrote that Persico ordered Gioeli and consigliere Joel (Joe Waverly) Cacace to reward Dino (Big Dino) Calabro, the triggerman in the Cutolo hit, by inducting him into the crime family. Then, they were to place him in Lombardo’s crew so he could “get close to Lombardo” and whack him, wrote prosecutors Cristina Posa, James Gatta and Elizabeth Geddes.

Joe Waverly, who had used Calabro and Gioeli to carry out the execution murder of NYPD cop Ralph Dols two years earlier, “suggested luring Lombardo to Cacace’s boat and killing him there,” wrote the prosecutors. But the plotters were unable to get the job done.

Prosecutors state that testimony about the Lombardo murder plot will enable jurors to understand how Cutolo’s murder “enhanced Persico’s faith” in the killing ability of Gieoli’s crew, and help them better understand the murderous, “mutually beneficial relationship” that Persico enjoyed with Gioeli and Cacace.

In January 2003, Joe Waverly was arrested and jailed for four 1987 murders. With Tommy Shots consumed by the responsibilities of street boss, he “conveyed the order to another Colombo family member, but the murder was never committed,” the prosecutors wrote.

Twice more during the Aughts Decade, Lombardo would be blessed with good fortune that enabled him to become an octogenarian last August.

The first time came several months after Cacace was incarcerated – in May 2003.

That’s because Lombardo ended up safe behind bars on racketeering charges of running a major bookmaking and loansharking ring. Operating in Brooklyn, Queens and Long Island, it raked in conservatively, according to court papers, $150,000 a week interest from loans and more than $20,000 a week from the gambling end of the business.

And the way The Old Man, as his crew members were calling him then, engineered his way into prison indicates that the savvy gangster may have gotten an inkling that he was a marked man.

When he copped a plea deal in February, 2004, Lombardo asked the judge to revoke his bail immediately and send him off to federal prison. In August 2006, The Old Man was released and signed an agreement to stay away from 135 listed mobsters and associates for the next three years, something he lived up to, according to court records.

Sources say that in 2008, a year before his supervised release ended, Lombardo caught his second big break of the decade when capo Paul (Paulie Guns) Bevacqua, who had gotten the Lombardo murder contract from Tommy Shots, began cooperating.

Not only did Paulie Guns tell his FBI handlers about The Old Man murder plot, he wore a wire and enabled the feds to indict the family’s current Administration, by tape-recording chats with the family's top three wiseguys, leaving Ralph Lombardo to shift for himself, and evade the feds’ most recent assault on the mob.

The next moves are up to Lombardo, and another geezer gangster, 77-year-old Carmine (Junior) Persico, the official family boss who’s calling the Colombo family shots these days from his window seat overlooking the spacious federal prison hospital complex in Butner, North Carolina.
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Interesting to me that Lombardo is from Middle Village, that area always struck me as Bonnano territory going back the last few decades.
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JD has a new post on the Demeo crew murders.

http://lcnbios.blogspot.ca/

Lets just say they were busy boys.
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat May 12, 2018 11:54 am JD has a new post on the Demeo crew murders.

http://lcnbios.blogspot.ca/

Lets just say they were busy boys.
The demeo crew were a bunch of sick fucks. Good read btw
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It has these men listed along with Danny Grillo as the killers. James Coonan (30y), William Beattie (30y), Thomas Hess (39y), Richard Ryan, Nicholas Kagabines (46y).

It also states that Demeo did not know of the killing until after it was done. It sounds like it was a Westies hit, especially since Demeo was not aware that it was going to go down.
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Anyone know why bellomo got the nickname ‘barney’?
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Apparently the guys nuts over the Flintstones.
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun May 13, 2018 4:01 pm Apparently the guys nuts over the Flintstones.
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just re watched Donnie Brasco.
has anyone else notice when they go to fl and get the boat....

Santo pulls up and DONNIE says "Mr teafficante, this is lefty, a friend of ours"
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Mon May 14, 2018 7:05 pm just re watched Donnie Brasco.
has anyone else notice when they go to fl and get the boat....

Santo pulls up and DONNIE says "Mr teafficante, this is lefty, a friend of ours"
Minor mistake compared to the scene where they have Brasco helping dispose of the bodies. :roll:
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Jeremy,

That same gaffe was made twice. While I missed the one you described, the other is near the end of the day cruise and Sonny introduces Santo to Donnie as Amico Nos.
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Wiseguy wrote: Mon May 21, 2018 7:17 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Mon May 14, 2018 7:05 pm just re watched Donnie Brasco.
has anyone else notice when they go to fl and get the boat....

Santo pulls up and DONNIE says "Mr teafficante, this is lefty, a friend of ours"
Minor mistake compared to the scene where they have Brasco helping dispose of the bodies. :roll:
yeah. totally unrealistic . everyone knows he woulda took off the boot before sawing. I feel ya wiseguy.

Doobeez I missed that one. I just thought it was interesting bcuz they intentionally out those scenes in. bc of the whole lefty conv of friend of mine vs ours.
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Anyone know the last known time an associate was required to kill someone to become a made member?
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slimshady_007 wrote: Fri May 25, 2018 5:22 pm Anyone know the last known time an associate was required to kill someone to become a made member?
My Guess would be Columbo war.
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