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Coloboy wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 11:50 am Last I heard he was connected to 26th st/Chinatown.

The feds linked his ring to Paloians as well, at least loosely. My hunch is it was all outfit connected/run. Too many links between all those guys. Same with Poeta out in Highwood. All those gambling busts happened around the same time, right as Illinois was legalizing sports gambling. Not a coincidence in my book. They went after the biggest fish to try and eliminate competition, and all those fish had long standing outfit ties. I'm also pretty sure someone else swept in and picked up those customers in short order. People think illegal bookmaking is dead or dying, but it's not the case. Legalization took a huge swath of customers away for sure, but its tough to beat no taxes and betting on credit. Plus people are creatures of habit, if they have gone to a bookie forever they are likely to continue. Outfit doesn't want casual weekend gamblers who bet on draftkings. They want deadbeat gambling addicts who are risking bankruptcy.
Idk about the last sentence. Imo it's about creating a income stream. A guy who is down 25k, they don't want to half up front now and the othert in 4-5 months. They will take a 1000/week instead and once you have 2-3 of them going on it provides some financial stability.

https://www.nj.com/inside-jersey/2011/0 ... ob_20.html

I know alot has changed in 10+ years but they should still have some of that money left if they were smart. One better was betting over $2Mil a month
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Patrickgold wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:35 pm Frank Annunzio, who represented Chicago in Congress, was linked to the mob, his FBI file shows

Newly obtained records say sources told the FBI that the Machine Democrat, who died in 2001, “frequently associated with” top La Cosa Nostra figures and “is possibly an LCN member himself.”

By Robert Herguth Apr 28, 2023, 5:30am CDT
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Not long before his death in 2001 at 86, former U.S. Rep. Frank Annunzio “lent his name” to a campaign against “The Sopranos,” the acclaimed HBO series about a fictional mob family that some critics said presented an unfair portrait of Italian Americans.

According to Annunzio’s FBI file, recently obtained by the Chicago Sun-Times, sources told agents over the years that the longtime congressman and Chicago Machine Democrat “frequently associated with” top La Cosa Nostra figures and “is possibly an LCN member himself.”

The records — released in response to a public records request and now part of the Sun-Times’ “The FBI Files” online database — also reveal there was a years-long federal investigation into a “proposed bribery scheme” described as having focused in part on Annunzio. That investigation was closed in the mid-1980s without any criminal charges, the files show.

As part of the investigation, the records show, FBI agents did surveillance on Annunzio — who retired from Congress in the early 1990s after representing parts of Chicago for nearly 30 years, from 1965 to 1993 — at his congressional offices in Washington, D.C.

An FBI record showing U.S. Rep. Frank Annunzio’s Washington, D.C., offices were under surveillance in 1981.
An FBI record showing U.S. Rep. Frank Annunzio’s Washington, D.C., offices were under surveillance in 1981.FBI
The records show federal authorities discussed the legality of staging what appears to have been a sting operation there.

“The opinion of the Legal Counsel Division (LCD) has been requested as to whether there exists any legal prohibition to permitting [REDACTED] bribe to the congressman, either in his Congressional office or in the Capitol building itself,” says an FBI memo from 1981. “LCD has located neither law nor precedent precluding this activity in either location.”

A record in late U.S. Rep. Frank Annunzio’s FBI file shows federal authorities discussed the legality of staging what appears to have been a sting operation in congressional offices.
A record in late U.S. Rep. Frank Annunzio’s FBI file shows federal authorities discussed the legality of staging what appears to have been a sting operation in congressional offices.FBI
The records also say agents wanted late 36th Ward Chicago Ald. Louis Farina to flip against Annunzio in the bribery investigation, which targeted both of them, but he wouldn’t do that.

“Farina basically took the whole blame in this matter upon himself and would not implicate Annunzio or anyone else,” according to an FBI memo from 1985, two years after Farina was convicted in a separate case in which he and Cook County Commissioner Martin Tuchow were found guilty of shaking down a developer.

The Annunzio case was dropped several months later, records show.

Many details about why Annunzio was targeted by agents and why the FBI considered him tight with the mob aren’t clear from the heavily redacted documents the agency released.

But one of the FBI documents quotes someone identified only as a “source” saying Annunzio “was a long-time friend of various LCN members, including Anthony Accardo.”

LCN, or La Cosa Nostra, is another term for the Mafia. Accardo led the Chicago mob for decades and died at 86 of natural causes in 1992.

Another FBI record says, “An in-depth study of Chicago files has revealed that various sources over the past 20 years have reported that Annunzio has frequently associated with top Chicago LCN figures and is possibly an LCN member himself.”

Another record in U.S. Rep. Frank Annunzio’s FBI files.
Another record in U.S. Rep. Frank Annunzio’s FBI files.FBI
Asked by a reporter about the newly released FBI records, Walter Dudycz, a former Chicago cop and state senator who ran unsuccessfully against Annunzio in 1990, says, “Am I surprised that he was connected? Absolutely not.

“I have no regrets running against Frank Annunzio,” Dudycz says. “But he had a lot of muscle behind him — political and otherwise.”


Kevin Tynan, Annunzio’s former son-in-law and onetime campaign manager, dismisses what’s in the FBI records.

“There’s a lot of innuendo in the files,” Tynan says. Saying “he was in the Mafia sounds like they were painting all Italians with the same Mafia brush, a sad commentary on life in the ‘60s and ‘70s. I hope we got past that.

“Frank earned a master’s degree in education from DePaul University and taught in the Chicago Public Schools,” Tynan says. “I don’t think graduate education is typical for made men.”

Another reference in FBI files to alleged mob connections of the late U.S. Rep. Frank Annunzio.
Another reference in FBI files to alleged mob connections of the late U.S. Rep. Frank Annunzio.FBI
Though the revelations regarding the FBI’s thinking are new, organized crime allegations against Annunzio had surfaced at times during his lengthy political career.


Author Ovid Demaris’ 1969 book “Captive City” cited a once-secret federal report linking the congressman to feared Chicago Outfit mob boss Sam Giancana and the notoriously mobbed-up 1st Ward Democratic political organization.

In 1990, Chicago magazine resurrected some of the same accusations in a story about Annunzio and his role in a massive savings and loan scandal that saw the collapse of numerous financial institutions and a bailout that cost taxpayers billions.

Of Annunzio and that time, Roll Call magazine wrote: “A dark period in Annunzio’s career came while he was chairman of the Banking, Finance and Urban Affairs subcommittee on financial institutions supervision, regulation and insurance. He chaired the panel during the savings-and-loan scandal, and he was criticized for his own ties to the industry.”

A photo of the late U.S. Rep. Frank Annunzio contained in his FBI files.
A photo of the late U.S. Rep. Frank Annunzio contained in his FBI files.FBI
That included accepting campaign contributions from people from a savings and loan who stood to gain by his decisions in Congress and encouraging a bank board to hire a relative.

The FBI files show agents followed news accounts of Annunzio, including a Sun-Times report that he helped shepherd legislation benefiting the politically connected developers of Presidential Towers in the West Loop.

The FBI also tied another Chicago politician to the mob, the Sun-Times previously has reported. It once called the late 1st Ward Ald. Fred Roti a “made” member of the mob, which came to light only after his death in 1999.
Why are they releasing this stuff now? Why wait? A congreessman who died over 20 years and had connecttions to the outfit is not exactly breaking news. Idk alot about FOIA so there's another reason
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Tonyd621 wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 5:42 am
Why are they releasing this stuff now? Why wait? A congreessman who died over 20 years and had connecttions to the outfit is not exactly breaking news. Idk alot about FOIA so there's another reason
It probably wasn't requested until recently. The FBI doesn't just release the records, someone has to request them (FOIA).
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Snakes wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 7:51 am
Tonyd621 wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 5:42 am
Why are they releasing this stuff now? Why wait? A congreessman who died over 20 years and had connecttions to the outfit is not exactly breaking news. Idk alot about FOIA so there's another reason
It probably wasn't requested until recently. The FBI doesn't just release the records, someone has to request them (FOIA).
Understood thank, so whoever requested that file probably knows some things we don't, being it such unusual request. Do we know who requested it? Maybe it's not an unusual request idk to me it is and I would like to see what other files this fellla requested.
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Tonyd621 wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 7:57 am
Snakes wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 7:51 am
Tonyd621 wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 5:42 am
Why are they releasing this stuff now? Why wait? A congreessman who died over 20 years and had connecttions to the outfit is not exactly breaking news. Idk alot about FOIA so there's another reason
It probably wasn't requested until recently. The FBI doesn't just release the records, someone has to request them (FOIA).
Understood thank, so whoever requested that file probably knows some things we don't, being it such unusual request. Do we know who requested it? Maybe it's not an unusual request idk to me it is and I would like to see what other files this fellla requested.
The suntimes have been doing this recently. Requesting the files on politicians and outfit guys
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I don’t think requesting Annunzio’s file was at all unusual. He was a very well-known politician for decades and his connections to the mob were not a secret. The only thing that was really revelatory in what the article cites from Annunzio’s file was that the FBI thought he may have in fact been a member, though it is unclear if this was just their opinion or if they had any sources that stated or alluded to this. I’d want to see Annunzio’s file myself, though it sounds like, as usual, heavy redactions will be a challenge.
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Another politician who was suspected of being made was Roland Libonati. He was proud of his friendship with Al Capone and was a member of Congress for years, and before that in the Illinois legislature. He was considered a longtime reliable vote for the Outfit.
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PolackTony wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 10:30 am I don’t think requesting Annunzio’s file was at all unusual. He was a very well-known politician for decades and his connections to the mob were not a secret. The only thing that was really revelatory in what the article cites from Annunzio’s file was that the FBI thought he may have in fact been a member, though it is unclear if this was just their opinion or if they had any sources that stated or alluded to this. I’d want to see Annunzio’s file myself, though it sounds like, as usual, heavy redactions will be a challenge.
Yeah probably right. Its just seems unusual to me
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I realize that this may be a tough question to answer, but does anyone have insight as to whether Solly D, Jimmy I, and Mike Sarno were all imprisoned together in the mid to late 90's? Furthermore, any clue if they would have been able to meet/interact during this time?

My hunch has always been that when Sarno took over as day to day boss sometime in the mid 2000's, he was really working on behalf of Solly and Jimmy. Or in other words, the Cicero crew had taken over control of the outfit ops as a whole with Sarno being the guy on the street but the other two calling the shots. If they were all imprisoned together, this would make this all the more likely. Jimmy and Solly D always struck me as true street guys dedicated to the life and Sarno would have been the perfect guy to carry out their orders.
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You mean as far as being able to get to know each other? Sarno has pretty deep ties to the Cicero crew going back years so not sure it was necessary that they be locked up together to make strong connections.
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I'm under the impression that Sarno was the guy on the streets and not acting on anyone's behalf. He admitted in his plea agreement in 1990 to being involved with the Ferriola crew back to the mid-70s.
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funkster wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 3:04 pm You mean as far as being able to get to know each other? Sarno has pretty deep ties to the Cicero crew going back years so not sure it was necessary that they be locked up together to make strong connections.
I’m aware they all came from the same crew, sorry if that wasn’t so clear in my post. More referring to the fact that if they were locked up together and able to socialize and talk for multiple years, it would’ve been very easy to facilitate plans for when they all got out.
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Coloboy wrote: Wed May 03, 2023 2:06 pm I realize that this may be a tough question to answer, but does anyone have insight as to whether Solly D, Jimmy I, and Mike Sarno were all imprisoned together in the mid to late 90's? Furthermore, any clue if they would have been able to meet/interact during this time?

My hunch has always been that when Sarno took over as day to day boss sometime in the mid 2000's, he was really working on behalf of Solly and Jimmy. Or in other words, the Cicero crew had taken over control of the outfit ops as a whole with Sarno being the guy on the street but the other two calling the shots. If they were all imprisoned together, this would make this all the more likely. Jimmy and Solly D always struck me as true street guys dedicated to the life and Sarno would have been the perfect guy to carry out their orders.
It was from my understanding that Tony Calabrese, not related to the others Calabreses, was working directly for Jimmy I. And Jimmy I is the one that had him kill both Tony the Hatch and Ronnie Jarrett. So it is my opinion that Jimmy I was higher up than originally thought in the early 2000s. As far as I know, all three were in prison at the same time in the early to mid 90s. I believe Jimmy got released around 1995 followed by Sarno. Solly D got out in 2006
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I'm not sure where they were locked up. Inendino was definitely subordinate to Spano when they were both on the street. It is also my belief that Rocky continued to run the crew through Spano until he was sentenced and transferred out of Oxford, at which point Apes took over.
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It is incredible we haven't heard a peep about Spano given his status in the 90s.
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