Gene Borello- fraud?

[Etna]

All valid points. I just remember another poster saying (from a post on Lucchese murdere in the 80s) that was when they used to put in work.

That was me. That was back when the guineas were tough.


Pogo

Where is that original post?

[Pogo The Clown]

Here you go. By the way my above post was line from Sleepers.


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[Extortion]

I dont believe Gene when he says he was the only shooter in the Bonannos and was the toughest mobster on the streets. He had 3 attempted murders so he technically isn’t even a killer. Plus, compared to other families the Bonanno’s have a decent amount of shooters. Anyone else think Borello’s full of himself and exaggerates a lot?

He had 3 attempts on his life so that shows you theres other shooters.He let it slip that the most dangerous crew was dino calabros the crew was full of shooters,so that i was the only guy who put in work during this generation is bullshit.

Dino’s crew was another generation but they were very dangerous and unlike Gene, Dino and his guys actually successfully killed people. Gene’s generation are millennials( born 81-96). Gene seemed like the only active shooter in the Asaro/ Gialanzo crew in the mid 2000’s- early 2010’s. However there’s definitely young guys on the streets who’ve put in work but just haven’t been caught yet. For example, the guys who whacked Chris Castellano 10 years ago. The mob attracts sociopaths so inevitably there’s always gunna be guys who are willing to pick up a gun.

Who was chris castellano?

[Extortion]

Gene was the typical blue collar worker bee in the mob, i.e. collections, robberies, assaults. But, like Kenji, at the end of the day his kill count was 0.

Alite does have some murders but his "I was the ultimate gangster" routine isn't necessary. He can bash Gotti Jr. all he wants but where would he have been without being in Junior's crew?

So they can only talk about Franzese "keeping it real" so much. And I say that as someone who likes their show so far.

Kenji did a lot of serious assaults and the feds charged him with those assaults...he also had perhaps killed as he had hinted at it. Is it true? Probably not but maybe I mean he certainly was able to get access to a lot of people but he was mostly a money guy as we all know. He made a lot of money which is why they messed w him

[slimshady_007]

I dont believe Gene when he says he was the only shooter in the Bonannos and was the toughest mobster on the streets. He had 3 attempted murders so he technically isn’t even a killer. Plus, compared to other families the Bonanno’s have a decent amount of shooters. Anyone else think Borello’s full of himself and exaggerates a lot?

He had 3 attempts on his life so that shows you theres other shooters.He let it slip that the most dangerous crew was dino calabros the crew was full of shooters,so that i was the only guy who put in work during this generation is bullshit.

Dino’s crew was another generation but they were very dangerous and unlike Gene, Dino and his guys actually successfully killed people. Gene’s generation are millennials( born 81-96). Gene seemed like the only active shooter in the Asaro/ Gialanzo crew in the mid 2000’s- early 2010’s. However there’s definitely young guys on the streets who’ve put in work but just haven’t been caught yet. For example, the guys who whacked Chris Castellano 10 years ago. The mob attracts sociopaths so inevitably there’s always gunna be guys who are willing to pick up a gun.

Who was chris castellano?

He was a Genovese associate who was found out to be an informant
http://queenscrap.blogspot.com/2010/07/ ... d.html?m=1

[Wiseguy]

Gene was the typical blue collar worker bee in the mob, i.e. collections, robberies, assaults. But, like Kenji, at the end of the day his kill count was 0.

Alite does have some murders but his "I was the ultimate gangster" routine isn't necessary. He can bash Gotti Jr. all he wants but where would he have been without being in Junior's crew?

So they can only talk about Franzese "keeping it real" so much. And I say that as someone who likes their show so far.

Kenji did a lot of serious assaults and the feds charged him with those assaults...he also had perhaps killed as he had hinted at it. Is it true? Probably not but maybe I mean he certainly was able to get access to a lot of people but he was mostly a money guy as we all know. He made a lot of money which is why they messed w him

And Gene had a lot of assaults too. But if they're going to make a case against another mob guy about being "capable," a "real gangster," etc. they should probably have at least one hit under their belt. Neither of them killed anyone.

[Pmac2]

Eventually there gonna run out of rats to interview because half of them probaly 85 percent just go into the WPP and fade away.

[Uncle Pete]

Gene was the typical blue collar worker bee in the mob, i.e. collections, robberies, assaults. But, like Kenji, at the end of the day his kill count was 0.

Alite does have some murders but his "I was the ultimate gangster" routine isn't necessary. He can bash Gotti Jr. all he wants but where would he have been without being in Junior's crew?

So they can only talk about Franzese "keeping it real" so much. And I say that as someone who likes their show so far.

Kenji did a lot of serious assaults and the feds charged him with those assaults...he also had perhaps killed as he had hinted at it. Is it true? Probably not but maybe I mean he certainly was able to get access to a lot of people but he was mostly a money guy as we all know. He made a lot of money which is why they messed w him

And Gene had a lot of assaults too. But if they're going to make a case against another mob guy about being "capable," a "real gangster," etc. they should probably have at least one hit under their belt. Neither of them killed anyone.

I’ve seen Alite mention different numbers of kills. He has obviously lied and exaggerated his body count. I know he really did some, and he was surely a capable guy but I have no idea what number is accurate.

Also, of all his kills, were any really mob hits? Seems like most of his mob sanctioned violence was relegated to handing our ass whoopings while he was around Junior. Everything is else he did seemed to be him and low level neighborhood drug guys.

[Wiseguy]

I’ve seen Alite mention different numbers of kills. He has obviously lied and exaggerated his body count. I know he really did some, and he was surely a capable guy but I have no idea what number is accurate.

Also, of all his kills, were any really mob hits? Seems like most of his mob sanctioned violence was relegated to handing our ass whoopings while he was around Junior. Everything is else he did seemed to be him and low level neighborhood drug guys.

If I'm not mistaken, he confessed to being involved in the following murders:

1. Frank Boccia (Gambino associate, 1988)
2. George Grosso (drug dealer, 1988)
3. Louis DiBono (Gambino soldier, 1990)
4. Bruce Gotterup (drug dealer, 1991)
5. John Gebert (drug dealer, 1996)

If you've read his book Gotti's Rules, these were mob-related hits, albeit low-level ones. Drugs were the biggest money maker for the Junior Gotti crew and these murders involved rivals, controlling territory, etc. I'm skeptical about the DiBono hit simply because Gravano never mentioned Alite being involved in that murder.

I think Alite has since claimed to have been involved in at least a few more but, considering that not having confessed to additional murders would likely go against his plea deal, I'd take that with a dumptruck of salt too.

Bottom line, he was involved in a handful of low-level murders but Luca Brasi he was not.

[Uncle Pete]

I’ve seen Alite mention different numbers of kills. He has obviously lied and exaggerated his body count. I know he really did some, and he was surely a capable guy but I have no idea what number is accurate.

Also, of all his kills, were any really mob hits? Seems like most of his mob sanctioned violence was relegated to handing our ass whoopings while he was around Junior. Everything is else he did seemed to be him and low level neighborhood drug guys.

If I'm not mistaken, he confessed to being involved in the following murders:

1. Frank Boccia (Gambino associate, 1988)
2. George Grosso (drug dealer, 1988)
3. Louis DiBono (Gambino soldier, 1990)
4. Bruce Gotterup (drug dealer, 1991)
5. John Gebert (drug dealer, 1996)

If you've read his book Gotti's Rules, these were mob-related hits, albeit low-level ones. Drugs were the biggest money maker for the Junior Gotti crew and these murders involved rivals, controlling territory, etc. I'm skeptical about the DiBono hit simply because Gravano never mentioned Alite being involved in that murder.

I think Alite has since claimed to have been involved in at least a few more but, considering that not having confessed to additional murders would likely go against his plea deal, I'd take that with a dumptruck of salt too.

Bottom line, he was involved in a handful of low-level murders but Luca Brasi he was not.

Thanks. Yea, the DiBono hit was one of the main ones I had just assumed he made up.

Also, do you feel the Gebert hit in ‘96 was was Gambino ordered? If we are to believe Junior’s story, Alite would have been chased at the time if I’m not mistaken.

[Wiseguy]

Thanks. Yea, the DiBono hit was one of the main ones I had just assumed he made up.

Also, do you feel the Gebert hit in ‘96 was was Gambino ordered? If we are to believe Junior’s story, Alite would have been chased at the time if I’m not mistaken.

Yeah, that one might have been personal. Depends on what you believe.

[chubby]

It’s funny the first episode Gene was wearing that Ap watch... then the comments blew go about it... he hasn’t worn it sense, he said he borrowed it from a friend, I guarantee that he still has several high end watches from the home invasions and jewelry store robberies he did.. just kept the watches stashed from the feds...

He told me that Ronnie didn’t want him made cause then technically they would at one point hafe had the same status and both been soldiers (Ronnie later was acting skipper) and he said that he wanted to make sure that Gene was kept under him... I mean who knows how true it is... but it does make some sense ... if I was Ronnie I would want to keep gene under me also.. he was doing a lot of the leg work for that crew especially when Ronnie was away... I do believe he was having trouble getting his shy money collected cause it seemed like a fact that festa was kind of a mark, he got beat out of money several times and didn’t do anything in retaliation...

[SonnyBlackstein]

It’s funny the first episode Gene was wearing that Ap watch... then the comments blew go about it... he hasn’t worn it sense, he said he borrowed it from a friend, I guarantee that he still has several high end watches from the home invasions and jewelry store robberies he did.. just kept the watches stashed from the feds...

He told me that Ronnie didn’t want him made cause then technically they would at one point hafe had the same status and both been soldiers (Ronnie later was acting skipper) and he said that he wanted to make sure that Gene was kept under him... I mean who knows how true it is... but it does make some sense ... if I was Ronnie I would want to keep gene under me also.. he was doing a lot of the leg work for that crew especially when Ronnie was away... I do believe he was having trouble getting his shy money collected cause it seemed like a fact that festa was kind of a mark, he got beat out of money several times and didn’t do anything in retaliation...

I’m honestly suspect of this ‘Festa is a mark/pussy/wimp/fag’ narrative.
The guy will serve over five years inside. Five years.

I would seriously hesitate in calling someone who can do five years in US prisons, a pussy.

He may have been hit a few times, but if someone’s got a glock in your face, so you hand over your cash, that makes you a pussy?

I don’t think so.

[Shellackhead]

I think that whole “stay out of trouble kids” won’t work out because they basically brag about “I had a 100K truck”, “me & my crew had corvets”, “we spent thousands of dollars a week on whatever we wanted” & then say don’t go down that path, like how are you going to say all of that because that’s what basically young people look for & aim to have if they decide to be criminals.

[Uncle Pete]

I think that whole “stay out of trouble kids” won’t work out because they basically brag about “I had a 100K truck”, “me & my crew had corvets”, “we spent thousands of dollars a week on whatever we wanted” & then say don’t go down that path, like how are you going to say all of that because that’s what basically young people look for & aim to have if they decide to be criminals.

Yup, and Alite talking shit about Patsy not avenging his son and their constant bashing of Michael Franzese because he wasn’t violent doesn’t really send the message to kids to stop being violent