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Grouchy Sinatra wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:27 pm I doubt there are drug dealers anywhere kicking up to the Italian mob anymore. Definitely NO ONE in Cali. If any Italian wiseguy approached someone out here and tried to shake him down he would get laughed at...at best.
There's nobody in California to collect anyway. New York/New Jersey will be about the only place that will still take place and it will be in those neighborhoods where the mob has a significant enough presence.
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:14 pm Can anyone go over STL hist at there height??

I know there was a BMF sister group in STL but obviously different ....

Giordano Family right??

And Egan's rats
Not necessarily their "height", as we don't have inside sources from that time, but this covers them in the late 1960s and we go into some other historical discussion:

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4109
PolackTony wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:18 pm This doesn't relate to current/recent STL. But I wonder if ahyone knows if the STL Giordanos had any family links to Chicago Heights. There was a Chris Giordano in the 30's that was part of the remaining Sicilian faction in the Heights with the Castelli and DiGiovanni Bros. Would be interesting to know if he had any connections to Tony Giordano, even if just from back in the old country.
Maybe if he was from Terrasini, but Giordano is a common name all around. The St. Louis Giordanos/Giardanos were from Detroit and connected to the Detroit family via their heritage. One source said the Giordano brothers were related to the Detroit leadership.
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B. wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:47 am
JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:14 pm Can anyone go over STL hist at there height??

I know there was a BMF sister group in STL but obviously different ....

Giordano Family right??

And Egan's rats
Not necessarily their "height", as we don't have inside sources from that time, but this covers them in the late 1960s and we go into some other historical discussion:

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4109
PolackTony wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:18 pm This doesn't relate to current/recent STL. But I wonder if ahyone knows if the STL Giordanos had any family links to Chicago Heights. There was a Chris Giordano in the 30's that was part of the remaining Sicilian faction in the Heights with the Castelli and DiGiovanni Bros. Would be interesting to know if he had any connections to Tony Giordano, even if just from back in the old country.
Maybe if he was from Terrasini, but Giordano is a common name all around. The St. Louis Giordanos/Giardanos were from Detroit and connected to the Detroit family via their heritage. One source said the Giordano brothers were related to the Detroit leadership.
Thanks for the reply. I don't think the guy I asked about was related as he was Agrigentese.
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A chart I put together from the information b. was able to dig up.

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St. Louis Circa 1968 (Total 22 or 23 made members)


Administration:
Boss: Anthony Giardano
UnderBoss: John Vitale
Consigliere: Giovanni Ferrara


Capos:
James Giammanco


Soldiers:
Vince Biondo (Circa 1963)
Frank Bommarito
Ralph Caleca
Joseph Cammarata
Anthony DiMartino
Vincent Filippello
Anthony Giammanco
Joseph Giardano
Salvatore “Sam” Giardano
Anthony Lopiparo
Giovanni Mirabella
Anthony Miceli
Frank Pisciotta


Possible Members:
Vito Cusumano
Sam Guccione
?Phillip Mirabella


Deceased Members:
Frank “Greenie Frank” Agrusa (D/1946) (Killed) (Former Boss)
Gaetano "Tom" Buffa (D/1947) (Killed) (Former Boss)
Sam Buffa
Vincenzo Chiapetta (D/1950) (Pueblo Member?)
Pete Corrado
Mariano Costa
Joseph Geloso
Vito Giannola (D/1927) (Killed) (Former Boss)
Anthony “Tony Lap” LoPiparo (D/1960) (Former Boss)
Pasquale Miceli (Former Boss)
Alphonse Palazzolo (D/1926/7) (Killed) (Former Boss)
Alphonse Pazzalo
Charles Ruffino
Calogero SanFilippo
Frank Sicola (D/1922) (Killed)
Antonino Triolo (Early Boss?)
Gaetano “Big Tom” Viviano (D/1934) (Former Boss?)
Sam Viviano
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Awesome job putting that together.

Is it a different Tony LoPiparo on the soldier list or the same one as the dead former boss?
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I'd say yes. His nickname is Tony Lap and it says next to him "Former Boss" he also died in 1960.
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Wiseguy wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:10 pm
Grouchy Sinatra wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:27 pm I doubt there are drug dealers anywhere kicking up to the Italian mob anymore. Definitely NO ONE in Cali. If any Italian wiseguy approached someone out here and tried to shake him down he would get laughed at...at best.
There's nobody in California to collect anyway. New York/New Jersey will be about the only place that will still take place and it will be in those neighborhoods where the mob has a significant enough presence.
What about Philadelphia? LCN has a significant enough presence there. What do you think?
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Nick Prango wrote: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:15 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:10 pm
Grouchy Sinatra wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:27 pm I doubt there are drug dealers anywhere kicking up to the Italian mob anymore. Definitely NO ONE in Cali. If any Italian wiseguy approached someone out here and tried to shake him down he would get laughed at...at best.
There's nobody in California to collect anyway. New York/New Jersey will be about the only place that will still take place and it will be in those neighborhoods where the mob has a significant enough presence.
What about Philadelphia? LCN has a significant enough presence there. What do you think?
Maybe certain drug dealers in specific areas.
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