Where’s Philly’s indictment?

[NJShore4Life]

Faffy is always at Angelo’s Pizzeria . His son in law owns it. Great Sandwiches there, they even have a sandwich named The Faffy .

[PHL_Mob]

Yup- Faffy lives above Angelo’s

[Fughedaboutit]

Yup- Faffy lives above Angelo’s

Great now that loser Jeff "Canarsie" aka Elvis has someone else in Philly to stalk

[SonnyBlackstein]

https://www.nj.com/monmouth/2019/06/rep ... rison.html

“Servidio says in one of the audio recordings that he was also working with capos (short for caporegime, the mafia term for a leader of a crew) of other organized crime families.”

Any futher info on this?

[SonnyBlackstein]

Ill give Philly this. Guys can take a pinch.

Nicodemo, Merlino, Ligambi, Faffy, etc etc and now Servidio, all faced LONG sentences (Servidio is unbelievably lucky to get 12years) and hardly any button seems to roll.

Actually really quite interesting.

[Fughedaboutit]

Ill give Philly this. Guys can take a pinch.

Nicodemo, Merlino, Ligambi, Faffy, etc etc and now Servidio, all faced LONG sentences (Servidio is unbelievably lucky to get 12years) and hardly any button seems to roll.

Actually really quite interesting.

People give Philly shit all the time, but these guys stand up to a ton of time for the most part. A lot of guys in NY roll in a "New York minute" and for less. Didn't the acting Capo for the colombos roll over a few years for assault or something? lol

[Pogo The Clown]

Philly has had more made members flip than any other family in the country. Even more than the NY families who have several times as many members.


Pogo

[Fughedaboutit]

Philly has had more made members flip than any other family in the country. Even more than the NY families who have several times as many members.


Pogo

So you are saying Philly has had more made members flip in total than all 5 NY families combined or compared to each NY family individually? I find that hard to believe, but you are a numbers guy so who knows I am sure you may have the numbers.

[Pogo The Clown]

No individually. Philly has had at least 20 or 21. The next closest is the Bonannos with at least 18. You have to factor in though that the Bonannos have traditionally had as many as 2-3 times more members than Philly.


Pogo

[Fughedaboutit]

Wow, that seems low all around. I guess a lot of informants were just associates since we are going by made guys. Do you have a list for each family anywhere?

If factoring in associates I would imagine NY would have them dwarfed.

[chin_gigante]

https://www.nj.com/monmouth/2019/06/rep ... rison.html

“Servidio says in one of the audio recordings that he was also working with capos (short for caporegime, the mafia term for a leader of a crew) of other organized crime families.”

Any futher info on this?

During Persiano's time wearing a wire he met with Dominic Grande (his capo) frequently to discuss what he was doing with Servidio. In July 2016, Grande told Persiano that Servidio had to tell Joe Licata (Servidio's capo) everything he was doing. In September, Servidio told Persiano that another capo was also trying to make sure that everything Persiano and Servidio did together was on record to ensure that tribute was being paid. In October, Servidio told Persiano that Grande had given them (and Sam Piccolo) permission to work together selling heroin pills and stolen cigarettes. In January 2017, Servidio told Persiano that Grande owed Servidio $3,500 for previously supplied marijuana. In February, Servidio was talking to Persiano about their drug trafficking activities and said, "[Grande] probably wants it to go through him... there could be some [money] for everybody, but everybody's got to get some".

[Confederate]

Wow, that seems low all around. I guess a lot of informants were just associates since we are going by made guys. Do you have a list for each family anywhere?

If factoring in associates I would imagine NY would have them dwarfed.

Look under Mafia Charts. I think there is a Thread called Informants/Rats etc.

[Fughedaboutit]

Wow, that seems low all around. I guess a lot of informants were just associates since we are going by made guys. Do you have a list for each family anywhere?

If factoring in associates I would imagine NY would have them dwarfed.

Look under Mafia Charts. I think there is a Thread called Informants/Rats etc.

will do

[SonnyBlackstein]

https://www.nj.com/monmouth/2019/06/rep ... rison.html

“Servidio says in one of the audio recordings that he was also working with capos (short for caporegime, the mafia term for a leader of a crew) of other organized crime families.”

Any futher info on this?

During Persiano's time wearing a wire he met with Dominic Grande (his capo) frequently to discuss what he was doing with Servidio. In July 2016, Grande told Persiano that Servidio had to tell Joe Licata (Servidio's capo) everything he was doing. In September, Servidio told Persiano that another capo was also trying to make sure that everything Persiano and Servidio did together was on record to ensure that tribute was being paid. In October, Servidio told Persiano that Grande had given them (and Sam Piccolo) permission to work together selling heroin pills and stolen cigarettes. In January 2017, Servidio told Persiano that Grande owed Servidio $3,500 for previously supplied marijuana. In February, Servidio was talking to Persiano about their drug trafficking activities and said, "[Grande] probably wants it to go through him... there could be some [money] for everybody, but everybody's got to get some".

I am familiar with the above (though my thanks, appreciated).
Both Grande and Licata are Philly Capos. My quote stated Capos from other OC families.
Hence the intrigue.

[SonnyBlackstein]

Wow, that seems low all around. I guess a lot of informants were just associates since we are going by made guys. Do you have a list for each family anywhere?

If factoring in associates I would imagine NY would have them dwarfed.

Look under Mafia Charts. I think there is a Thread called Informants/Rats etc.

will do

Mafia charts.
Pogo has under the list of members, imprisoned, then flipped.

Yes Philly has 18 rats. But that includes Natate, Veasey, Previte etc who I wouldn’t consider in the same breath as others. A lot of unknowns as well.

Just a context thing. And for the record I never mentioned in my initial about the rats. Just the extraordinary amount of guys willing to take serious serious time.

But I guess it’s all subjective