Cammarano et al. indictment thread

[Pogo The Clown]

Can anyone repost the link to see what year Tommy Carruba bought his membership? Thanks.


Pogo

[Philly d]

Also interesting how George Tropiano was a Colombo Associate before being released to the Bonannos. So he is almost certainly related the former Colombo members George and Ralph Tropiano.


Pogo

Bonanno Family member Louis Civello extorted approximately $10,000 in protection money from a strip club in Suffolk County on Long Island on a yearly basis. Tropiano was responsible for collecting the payments

Louis Civello is also a former Colombo associate (as of 1992), and with Tropiano and Civello being intertwined it's possible they left the Colombo family at the same time/for the same reason. Additionaly Ernest Montevecchi started out as an Bonanno associate, leaving for the Genovese family sometime after the late 1960s.

Do you know anything more Louie?

[CabriniGreen]

A Few things here.....

1. Someone in here ask why Cammarano was so hands on.....

I think he was consolidating power. So he felt he had to be "on the scene " so to speak. As a new leader, he probably felt he COULDNT be too aloof from the troops. Lest he lose influence to the other faction.

The part where it says he told family members who borrowed money, they didn't have to pay back the interest.... That's a very " Chin" -like, VERY Machiavellian move there... Essentially buying influence, almost like he bought his votes... Reminded me of the first episode of the Borgias, lol

Especially since someone was shelved, for stealing from the family fund.....


2. There Might not be a formal acknowledgement of the Commision, but I think it essentially functions in NY.

3. The Gambinos and Bonnanos, seem as tight today as the Westside and Luchesses were..( maybe they still are...)

4. Why annual payments? Just curious.....

5. I'm kinda surprised they aren't directing marijuana grow ops....

[CabriniGreen]

Ooh, another thing.....

On the membership purchase.... How do these get vetted? Seriously..... Like.... Why does no one protest, or make a beef?

[CabriniGreen]

Like, they met with the Westside, telling them their new Administration, so how do the initiation vetting process go?

[slimshady_007]

A Few things here.....

1. Someone in here ask why Cammarano was so hands on.....

I think he was consolidating power. So he felt he had to be "on the scene " so to speak. As a new leader, he probably felt he COULDNT be too aloof from the troops. Lest he lose influence to the other faction.

The part where it says he told family members who borrowed money, they didn't have to pay back the interest.... That's a very " Chin" -like, VERY Machiavellian move there... Essentially buying influence, almost like he bought his votes... Reminded me of the first episode of the Borgias, lol

Especially since someone was shelved, for stealing from the family fund.....


2. There Might not be a formal acknowledgement of the Commision, but I think it essentially functions in NY.

3. The Gambinos and Bonnanos, seem as tight today as the Westside and Luchesses were..( maybe they still are...)

4. Why annual payments? Just curious.....

5. I'm kinda surprised they aren't directing marijuana grow ops....

I wonder why they told the westside about the new bonanno leadership. Is it mandatory that a family has to receive approval from the commission if they want to install a new boss?

[CabriniGreen]

@slim

That's why I speculate, based on recent info coming to light.... that it kinda functions informally...

[newera_212]

yeah i can imagine in functions in the sense that the guys are all keeping eachother in the loop, but theres probably not the roundtable meetings in clandestine locations where they're voting on issues or anything like that. i doubt they'd have to get outright approval to install a new boss from other families since things move and change so fast today. maybe in this case since there was a possibility of "factions" forming, and on one side you had an older guy who has been around a while, other families were told just to see who their admin would support in a split

id also imagine a lot of the guys who've been around a while loosely know or know of eachother just from being on the scene, and they talk about whats going on. i remember reading when Gioeli was upped to Acting Boss of the Colombos, he met with Sal Vitale more as friends, two guys shooting the shit, and was telling him about it.

i still wonder if induction lists get passed around today in 2019. i remember it was somewhat happening in the mid 2000s but we're a long way from those times in every single sense.

[SonnyBlackstein]

i still wonder if induction lists get passed around today in 2019. i remember it was somewhat happening in the mid 2000s but we're a long way from those times in every single sense.

Chin’s son Esposito was caught with a (likely) induction list. And he was only (relatively) recently caught.