Peter Gotti and the current Boss of the Gambinos

[jimmy_beans8]

Official title or not....if pete steps out d can at 5pm today...the streets would let him know where he stands immediately......my opinion!

[Frank]

Official title or not....if pete steps out d can at 5pm today...the streets would let him know where he stands immediately......my opinion!

As it stands right now, with nothing in the works for overturning his conviction or sentence, his release date is in 2032. He has made it threw half his sentence. He would be 93 years old if he lives that long. I think the Family leadership in 2032 would continue to consider him official boss and probably pass him along some money, with there still being an acting boss in place to run things. I think alot would have to do with does he have all his faculties at 93. He could be senile and in a nursing home at that point. If he got out today, I think he would still be official boss probably getting some tribute in respect and to be retired and kind of pensioned off.

[Pogo The Clown]

These guys always seem to get out on parole a few years before their sentence ends so he could very well get out someday if he lives to his late 80s.


Pogo

[Ivan]

These guys always seem to get out on parole a few years before their sentence ends so he could very well get out someday if he lives to his late 80s.

If memory serves he's doing federal time with no parole, so he maxes out his sentence in 2032, or gets deathly ill and is let out on compassionate release.

[Pogo The Clown]

I thought there was parole in the Fed system? These guys are always getting busted for parole violations from federal convictions.


Pogo

[Snakes]

You may be thinking of probation; there is no parole in the federal system unless you were convicted prior to November 1, 1987, when federal parole was abolished.

The only exceptions are if a judge orders the release of a prisoner on medical/compassionate grounds or overturns a conviction.

[Pogo The Clown]

Thanks. So what is the difference between federal probation and parole? We see these guys released years early all the time under supervised release conditions (and often sent back to complete their sentence when they violate it) on post 1987 convictions.


Pogo

[Snakes]

Probation, or supervised release, is a part of the offender's sentence. For examples, someone is given five years in prison with "x" months of supervised release after the completion of their sentence. The restrictions are similar to parole.

[Pogo The Clown]

Got it. Thanks.


Pogo

[Ivan]

You may be thinking of probation; there is no parole in the federal system unless you were convicted prior to November 1, 1987, when federal parole was abolished.

The only exceptions are if a judge orders the release of a prisoner on medical/compassionate grounds or overturns a conviction.

Thanks Snakes, beat me to it.

[Frank]

There is also the months off per year for good behavior. Each state is different and also fed time has it's own set of rules.

[bronx]

john gotti birthday today i think/

[newera_212]

its interesting that its the media / LEOs who push the "dumb don" angle with Pete yet other Gambino rats who were around him have never said anything? scars was close with the guy and besides money disputes he never said anything bad about Pete Gotti afaik? what are we going off of to decide the guy is an idiot? because he looks goofy, or because John disparaged him on tape?

has anyone besides media or LEO said Pete was incompetent? just curious. someone like Kasman doesnt count either, looking more for Scars, sammy, fappiano, anyone thats flipped that actually worked with him.

dont wanna get into a whole thing about it but the media and LEOs never miss a chance to shit on the Gottis. not saying that Pete was an ivy leaguer (no pun intended) but i highly doubt he was a laughing stock on the street and probably commanded some degree of respect

[chin_gigante]

has anyone besides media or LEO said Pete was incompetent? just curious. someone like Kasman doesnt count either, looking more for Scars, sammy, fappiano, anyone thats flipped that actually worked with him.

Gene Gotti described his brother as being incompetent for the job. Pete putting DiLeonardo on the shelf is what caused him to flip. Scars has also been on record as saying that he turned down the role of consigliere because he had no faith in Pete as boss and Zeke Squitieri as underboss. Squitieri himself has been said to be no fan of Pete. Sonny Ciccone was observed giving Pete a dirty look after getting nine years for racketeering because the boss forbid anyone from taking plea deals. Junior was involved in a beef with his uncle after being taken down as acting boss in the late 90s and complained that Pete was withholding money that should have been going to John's family. Pete also held onto Gene's money instead of giving it to his wife.

[newera_212]

has anyone besides media or LEO said Pete was incompetent? just curious. someone like Kasman doesnt count either, looking more for Scars, sammy, fappiano, anyone thats flipped that actually worked with him.

Gene Gotti described his brother as being incompetent for the job. Pete putting DiLeonardo on the shelf is what caused him to flip. Scars has also been on record as saying that he turned down the role of consigliere because he had no faith in Pete as boss and Zeke Squitieri as underboss. Squitieri himself has been said to be no fan of Pete. Sonny Ciccone was observed giving Pete a dirty look after getting nine years for racketeering because the boss forbid anyone from taking plea deals. Junior was involved in a beef with his uncle after being taken down as acting boss in the late 90s and complained that Pete was withholding money that should have been going to John's family. Pete also held onto Gene's money instead of giving it to his wife.

good stuff, thanks. thats what i was looking for. had no idea about the gene & pete tiffs. i knew scars saying he turned down the consig job because of the reasons mentioned (squitieri & pete) but its telling hes never said anything worse about Pete..maybe thats more telling of scars personality i guess

re: the Ciccone thing...was this prior to Old Bridge? maybe it was because Gotti Senior was still alive? because for old bridge a lot of those guys plead out. cant imagine after John Senior passed anyone in the family would tell a seasoned member / captain that he has to goto trial lol. Ciccone should have told Pete to go fuck himself. imagine someone telling Nick C "if you take a plea you're a rat" when he got indicted during old bridge lol