The DeCicco truth

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Re: The DeCicco truth

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Pmac2 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:15 am I don't think deccico would give up a meeting he was attending. and the paperwork the guy gus got ahold of no one's ever seen and big Paul seen it and declared it not worthy or maybe not explained who giving the info. Also the fbi lied alot in there paperwork to get court orders wirwtaps . I mean people came out saying carmine persico was working for the fbi to. if you understood the paperwork you quickly realize it wasn't the case. and they even said Neil delacrose. may have been informant. only ones I leaning to big names. bill bonanno. carmine the doctor maybe said to much probaly when approached by a agent and larry Gallo. of course scarpa
It sounds like Sclafani’s accusation is the strongest reason. The guy lost his life over it (I don’t know the story so not sure what other factors were involved) but it’s a big accusation to then get killed for
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Pmac2 wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:15 am I don't think deccico would give up a meeting he was attending. and the paperwork the guy gus got ahold of no one's ever seen and big Paul seen it and declared it not worthy or maybe not explained who giving the info. Also the fbi lied alot in there paperwork to get court orders wirwtaps . I mean people came out saying carmine persico was working for the fbi to. if you understood the paperwork you quickly realize it wasn't the case. and they even said Neil delacrose. may have been informant. only ones I leaning to big names. bill bonanno. carmine the doctor maybe said to much probaly when approached by a agent and larry Gallo. of course scarpa
Of course he would give up the meeting location he was attending if he was an informant. Why wouldn’t he? He’s involved in the mob, that’s why he’s an informant. I don’t disagree with the rest of your post too strenuously. While I think the FBI is very corrupt, this information came from the SDNY office and wasn’t leaked by the FBI. I’ve also not seen a situation where the FBI would purposely label someone who is alive as a snitch, knowing it would cost him his life. I do believe the FBI leaked the fake story about Dellacroce being a snitch, but that was after he died. I also come back to the fact that Sclafani knew exactly who DeCicco was and how well he was respected. I doubt he took that lightly. He knew it was a DeCicco or him situation once he brought it to light. One of them was going to go. I’m sure he put a lot of thought into it. Again, it’s almost impossible to know one way or the other, but I put the percentage above 50%.
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Also, as someone else said, he participated in killing his boss. Someone willing to violate that cardinal rule may be willing to give information from time to time. Look at Harry Riccobene in Philly. He went to war against a boss and it was later proven he was an informant for years. Look at Bill Bonanno. He and his father fought against the commission and it later was proven that he was an informant. If you’re willing to break one rule you are probably willing to break more.

The fact that Paul didn’t believe it doesn’t prove anything. I think most people would argue Chin was at least as shrewd as Paul and he chose not to whack Peter Savino, even after Gas and Vic told him he was an informant. Who knows what Chin or Paul was thinking? There’s no way to tell. I just look at what makes the most sense and what is probable.
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Re: The DeCicco truth

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Paul may have been thinking “I’ve got 2 cases, soon to be three or four, I can’t be whacking a guy rn.”

Btw, the number of high ranking guys “in the know” or in the plot to kill Castellano was much lower than those who didn’t know. Popular narratives make it seem like his entire family hated him but just off the top of my head

Knew of the plot:

John Gotti, Frank DeCicco, Gene Gotti, Angelo Ruggerio, Salvatore Gravano, Robert DiBernardo, Joe Watts, Joseph Armone, Joe N. Gallo

Didn’t:

Danny Marino,
Tommy Gambino,
Tommy Bilotti (and his crew)
Toddo Aurello
John Gambino
Joe Butch Corrao,
Jimmy Brown Failla,
Ettore Zappi
Neil Dellacroce,
Mario Traina
Patsy Conte

Literally around only 7-15 guys were in on it, versus say 200 odd guys not or who wouldn’t be supportive of it.
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Gravarno thinks Watts is a rat FWIW
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Danny Marino still alive/active?

Haven't heard that name in ages. Used to be a power.
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