junior gotti a rat?

[NYNighthawk]

was Carmin Lombardozzi the mobster who violated his oath of omerta by banging the daughter of another mobster? If I recall he was going to be whacked but because he brogutht in so much money from stock frauds - which I thought the mob said you could not do - he was given a pass but told to divorce his wife and marry the younger goomad of his?

[MichaelGiovanni]

Yes it was Carmine Lombardozzi. The father of the girl was Sabato 'Sammy Mintz' Muro. I could be mistaken but I think they were in the same crew. I wouldn't say he broke the oath of omerta with this act. It was more of a cosa nostra rule he broke. Later I think he became an informant so eventually he broke his oath anyway.

[Nasabeak]

Yes it was Carmine Lombardozzi. The father of the girl was Sabato 'Sammy Mintz' Muro. I could be mistaken but I think they were in the same crew. I wouldn't say he broke the oath of omerta with this act. It was more of a cosa nostra rule he broke. Later I think he became an informant so eventually he broke his oath anyway.

Was this before or after Carmine (likely) flipped?

[MichaelGiovanni]

Yes it was Carmine Lombardozzi. The father of the girl was Sabato 'Sammy Mintz' Muro. I could be mistaken but I think they were in the same crew. I wouldn't say he broke the oath of omerta with this act. It was more of a cosa nostra rule he broke. Later I think he became an informant so eventually he broke his oath anyway.

Was this before or after Carmine (likely) flipped?

Not sure about that

[funkster]

Continuing this because I don’t have 3 hours to devote except in bits and pieces but the minor stories he’s telling are pretty interesting. Bet David is so cringe though.

[JakeTheSnake630]

Continuing this because I don’t have 3 hours to devote except in bits and pieces but the minor stories he’s telling are pretty interesting. Bet David is so cringe though.

Yea Im not a PBD fan. It's unfortunate he is the one to do some of these interviews that other people can't get because they won't pay thousands to have them on. I wish he had more knowledge of LCN related things if he is going to do this interviews. He is also obsessed with Trump and has to insert him into the conversation anytime he can. It's annoying.

[funkster]

Continuing this because I don’t have 3 hours to devote except in bits and pieces but the minor stories he’s telling are pretty interesting. Bet David is so cringe though.

Yea Im not a PBD fan. It's unfortunate he is the one to do some of these interviews that other people can't get because they won't pay thousands to have them on. I wish he had more knowledge of LCN related things if he is going to do this interviews. He is also obsessed with Trump and has to insert him into the conversation anytime he can. It's annoying.

I thought the same thing why tf does he keep bringing him up?

[JakeTheSnake630]

Yea it's crazy. Guy made his money as an insurance salesman too you can tell he's slimy.

[funkster]

Junior spending a lot of time and anger trying to prove he didn't rat.

[Aces]

I dont really consider Jr Gotti a rat so to speak. He told guys in prison he was going to do it as a defense strategy and he never actually testified and went to trial 3 times. Guys like Cicale and Alice will try and claim Jr is a rat just so they "blend in" and can tell everyone that what they did is very common. Bullshit, Cicale and ALite are big rats and Alice is the worst I believe.

[NJShore4Life]

I dont really consider Jr Gotti a rat so to speak. He told guys in prison he was going to do it as a defense strategy and he never actually testified and went to trial 3 times. Guys like Cicale and Alice will try and claim Jr is a rat just so they "blend in" and can tell everyone that what they did is very common. Bullshit, Cicale and ALite are big rats and Alice is the worst I believe.

Junior Gotti is a rat, there’s no grey area.

It’s just like you can’t be a little bit pregnant.

I also agree that Alite is the biggest scumbag of all the lying rats because he blatantly lies and pretends to be someone he never even was ever.

Alite is now trying reinvent himself to be some kind of Trump guy, which is downright comical because Trump said flipping to rat on people should be illegal.

Alite is definitely more like a Sleepy Joe Biden guy, he lives off of food stamps and disability from the government and also raised a drug addict for a child just like Sleepy Joe did with that vile scumbag Hunter.

-Dante

[NothingNew44]

I dont really consider Jr Gotti a rat so to speak. He told guys in prison he was going to do it as a defense strategy and he never actually testified and went to trial 3 times. Guys like Cicale and Alice will try and claim Jr is a rat just so they "blend in" and can tell everyone that what they did is very common. Bullshit, Cicale and ALite are big rats and Alice is the worst I believe.

Junior Gotti is a rat, there’s no grey area.

It’s just like you can’t be a little bit pregnant.

I also agree that Alite is the biggest scumbag of all the lying rats because he blatantly lies and pretends to be someone he never even was ever.

Alite is now trying reinvent himself to be some kind of Trump guy, which is downright comical because Trump said flipping to rat on people should be illegal.

Alite is definitely more like a Sleepy Joe Biden guy, he lives off of food stamps and disability from the government and also raised a drug addict for a child just like Sleepy Joe did with that vile scumbag Hunter.

-Dante

Junior’s what I call “rocked the government to sleep” defense strategy fits too nicely for his narrative. Not to mention him saying he notified Massino of his intended plan. It’s all too clean. I look at it as he explored cooperation then backed out. He probably gave some minor info over that 40 minute proffer and got cold feet. As Dante said though, you can’t just dip your toe in the pool, he still got wet. It happened. While not devastating when compared to guys like D’Arco who went all in, Junior’s never testifying or providing extensive information to implicate arrests justification is simply semantics.

Alite doesn’t even know the truth anymore. He went off the rails a long time ago.

[funkster]

According to the life standards I dont think there's any way to not look at what he did as ratting. Pretty cut and dry. I dont think there's much of a doubt that if his father was alive he'd have disowned him.

[Honk]

Did he rat? Yes.

Do I care? No. I don’t blame him one bit for doing what he did. He’s smart enough to realize that he was going down the wrong path that ends with him dying in jail.

He’s a good man who sacrificed more than most. Clearly very intelligent as well. I gained a ton of of respect for him after that interview.