CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:13 am
what does Todaro family- syndicate means in today's landscape of Italian OC. That's what I'm wondering...
This is the most well-written, well-researched, well-accredited article on the Todaro crime family today: https://buffalonews.com/2017/03/19/fbi- ... perations/
Cabrini, you mentioned earlier that you were wondering exactly what the Todaro crime family was, and that it sounded like an ndrine in your opinion.
It would be an incredible coincidence if the Todaro syndicate was a separate entity to the Buffalo-based Todaro crime family/Magaddino crime family/Buffalo LCN. The reason for this is because the term 'Todaro crime family' has been used to describe the old Magaddino crime family since at least 1989: https://buffalonews.com/1989/07/26/toda ... -of-crime/
CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:13 am
what does Todaro family- syndicate means in today's landscape of Italian OC. That's what I'm wondering...
This is the most well-written, well-researched, well-accredited article on the Todaro crime family today: https://buffalonews.com/2017/03/19/fbi- ... perations/
Cabrini, you mentioned earlier that you were wondering exactly what the Todaro crime family was, and that it sounded like an ndrine in your opinion.
It would be an incredible coincidence if the Todaro syndicate was a separate entity to the Buffalo-based Todaro crime family/Magaddino crime family/Buffalo LCN. The reason for this is because the term 'Todaro crime family' has been used to describe the old Magaddino crime family since at least 1989: https://buffalonews.com/1989/07/26/toda ... -of-crime/
gohn the first link you provided is not on Buffalo but is on Trumps and Russia.
Obama's a pimp he coulda never outfought Trump, but I didn't know it till this day that it was Putin all along.
CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:13 am
what does Todaro family- syndicate means in today's landscape of Italian OC. That's what I'm wondering...
This is the most well-written, well-researched, well-accredited article on the Todaro crime family today: https://buffalonews.com/2017/03/19/fbi- ... perations/
Cabrini, you mentioned earlier that you were wondering exactly what the Todaro crime family was, and that it sounded like an ndrine in your opinion.
It would be an incredible coincidence if the Todaro syndicate was a separate entity to the Buffalo-based Todaro crime family/Magaddino crime family/Buffalo LCN. The reason for this is because the term 'Todaro crime family' has been used to describe the old Magaddino crime family since at least 1989: https://buffalonews.com/1989/07/26/toda ... -of-crime/
gohn the first link you provided is not on Buffalo but is on Trumps and Russia.
Willi, it's the "The Mafia is all but dead in Western New York" article from last year.
CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:13 am
what does Todaro family- syndicate means in today's landscape of Italian OC. That's what I'm wondering...
Cabrini it's what most of us are wondering. Thing is we don't have the answer, hopefully time will tell.
I think we do know.
When the feds referred to "members of the Todaro organized crime family," that's all they were saying. Some members of that now defunct family were involved in the bust.
The end.
But apparently that's not exciting or sexy enough. And the use of the term "syndicate" in that Sergi report has given fuel to more wild theories.
Wiseguy thank you for reiterating your position at every given opportunity. Clearly what you think is not good enough to satisfy every persons curiosity.
I mentioned before, I wasnt sure exactly what " Todaro crime family" meant. It SOUNDED like an ndrine to me, but just dont have enough info to really say so....
And Nickel is right, more questions.....interesting, but pretty murky....
I agree , if the Calabrians are ever going to make a big move into US / NY you have to think Toronto would be a key strategic spot .
Would love to catch a bug where they discussed the America market at a high level , seems to be their next logical stop in their global expansion . Especially with their money laundering . Will be interesting to see if they take the bait and make a move in 5+ years or sooner
CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:13 am
what does Todaro family- syndicate means in today's landscape of Italian OC. That's what I'm wondering...
This is the most well-written, well-researched, well-accredited article on the Todaro crime family today: https://buffalonews.com/2017/03/19/fbi- ... perations/
Cabrini, you mentioned earlier that you were wondering exactly what the Todaro crime family was, and that it sounded like an ndrine in your opinion.
It would be an incredible coincidence if the Todaro syndicate was a separate entity to the Buffalo-based Todaro crime family/Magaddino crime family/Buffalo LCN. The reason for this is because the term 'Todaro crime family' has been used to describe the old Magaddino crime family since at least 1989: https://buffalonews.com/1989/07/26/toda ... -of-crime/
gohn the first link you provided is not on Buffalo but is on Trumps and Russia.
My bad, Willy, I have no idea why it did that. I went to the exact article and everything. Thanks Wiseguy for posting it.
CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:13 am
what does Todaro family- syndicate means in today's landscape of Italian OC. That's what I'm wondering...
This is the most well-written, well-researched, well-accredited article on the Todaro crime family today: https://buffalonews.com/2017/03/19/fbi- ... perations/
Cabrini, you mentioned earlier that you were wondering exactly what the Todaro crime family was, and that it sounded like an ndrine in your opinion.
It would be an incredible coincidence if the Todaro syndicate was a separate entity to the Buffalo-based Todaro crime family/Magaddino crime family/Buffalo LCN. The reason for this is because the term 'Todaro crime family' has been used to describe the old Magaddino crime family since at least 1989: https://buffalonews.com/1989/07/26/toda ... -of-crime/
gohn the first link you provided is not on Buffalo but is on Trumps and Russia.
Willi, it's the "The Mafia is all but dead in Western New York" article from last year.
The thing is... it seems.... I dunno.. This got very confusing and off track...
It's like you guys only care about proving there is no Buffalo. ( which to me.... isn't even the point..)
For me, the point is if Buffalo controlled Hamilton and Toronto originally, and there is no more Buffalo, who is in control of Hamilton and Buffalo today? ( we know about Toronto) Lcn or ndrangheta?
That's really it. All this Buffalo talk stemmed from the question of whether the Violis were made into Buffalo, or The Bonnanos. If they were running what was left of the Luppino ndrine, and it was traditionally aligned with Buffalo, it explains the Buffalo guys straight away.
When I talk about an ndrine, I'm talking about the Violis running what was left of the Luppinos NDRINE??!! ( which was aligned with Buffalo)
Basically are they a Bonnano crew, ( they CANT be a Buffalo crew, the consensus...) or are they an ndrine aligned with the Bonnanos, something like the Ursinos with the Gambinos.
(That chart that Nickel posted, the Luppino ndrine, THATS WHAT I MEAN, not the phantom Family of Buffalo. )
Not fuckin Buffalo. That's the disconnect.... Like, this gets annoying.
If anything, I'm asking if the REMAINING Buffalo guys are part of an ndrine, the Luppino ndrine. If not, then the Violis " Hamilton based Bonanno crew"? Is the Luppino ndrine defunct?
(This is why I asked if they had a crew up there, are they building one?)
There is the mention of the Commisos.
It just seems with the Violis that most of thier operations stem from being plugged into the rackets that the Calabrians control, cigarettes from the Commisos, coke and opiates. Product.
( There were machines for gambling..)
This is one of the main reasons im asking if they are an ndrine. How many Calabrians have we seen busted for coke?
Again my original thought was, DOES ONTARIO CONTROL THE TERRITORY ORIGINALLY CONTROLLED BY THE MAGGADINNO FAMILY. Ontario being shorthand for the Calabrians.
I mean if they arnt Buffalo, or an ndrine, OR a Bonnano upstate crew, OR independents, lol. So what exactly? I'm trying to map the structure..... The relationship between Hamilton-Montreal- Buffalo- New York. That's really it.....
The main reason Todaro syndicate sounds strange to me is that they could have simply said Maggadino Family. It's like referring to the Bonnanos as the " Mancuso syndicate"... why would anyone do that ?
CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:35 am
Ooh and @ Wiseguy
The main reason Todaro syndicate sounds strange to me is that they could have simply said Maggadino Family. It's like referring to the Bonnanos as the " Mancuso syndicate"... why would anyone do that ?
As I mentioned before, the term "Todaro crime family" or "Syndicate" has been used to describe the Magaddino crime family since 1989.
CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:32 am
If anything, I'm asking if the REMAINING Buffalo guys are part of an ndrine, the Luppino ndrine. If not, then the Violis " Hamilton based Bonanno crew"? Is the Luppino ndrine defunct?
Lots of good questions again. Only thing I could say for sure is there is absolutely no possible way the remaining Buffalo made members became part of a Ndrine. It's much more plausible that whatever remained of the Buffalo family became part of the Bonanno family at some point.
CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:32 am
If anything, I'm asking if the REMAINING Buffalo guys are part of an ndrine, the Luppino ndrine. If not, then the Violis " Hamilton based Bonanno crew"? Is the Luppino ndrine defunct?
Lots of good questions again. Only thing I could say for sure is there is absolutely no possible way the remaining Buffalo made members became part of a Ndrine. It's much more plausible that whatever remained of the Buffalo family became part of the Bonanno family at some point.
Agreed, it looks that way at least base on recent reports. With all the unrest in Hamilton, Toronto and Montreal who knows what's really going on with these guys. Might be wiser to conduct business in Canada.... between the light sentences and no RICO.
Obama's a pimp he coulda never outfought Trump, but I didn't know it till this day that it was Putin all along.
CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:35 am
Ooh and @ Wiseguy
The main reason Todaro syndicate sounds strange to me is that they could have simply said Maggadino Family. It's like referring to the Bonnanos as the " Mancuso syndicate"... why would anyone do that ?
As I mentioned before, the term "Todaro crime family" or "Syndicate" has been used to describe the Magaddino crime family since 1989.
Yeah, it's no different than when references were made to the "Bruno/Scarfo family." They were talking about members of the Buffalo family. Not some break-away group or phantom syndicate on the Canadian side of the border that just happens to have the same name as Buffalos last official boss.
And I dont think anyone is "in control" of Buffalo.
I'm pretty sure you guys are smart enough to know when I say " control" Buffalo, I mean if there if there is a shy book, or sportsbook up there, traditional " mafia" crime, is this under Calabrian or LCN control.
Yall gone stop acting like I'm some fuckin fanboy....
