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Got confused with the pages so my question is well out of sync and I can’t delete it. Ignore me
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What kind of name is "Aladena." I've literally never seen this name anywhere other than Jimmy Fratianno's birth name. Does anyone know where this name even originates? I've always wondered this.
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Anyone watch GODFATHER OF HARLEM ?

The bumpy Johnson show?? It's pretty much like the Rizzuto show they did where they just completely make events up to the point where it's so fake that it's not fun.

I don't understand why they even would ruin GOOD stories ...

They got chin and bumpy Johnson shooting JOE MAGLIOCCO and putting a knife to JOE BONANNOs throat saying HARLEM is theres now .…
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:03 pm Anyone watch GODFATHER OF HARLEM ?

The bumpy Johnson show?? It's pretty much like the Rizzuto show they did where they just completely make events up to the point where it's so fake that it's not fun.

I don't understand why they even would ruin GOOD stories ...

They got chin and bumpy Johnson shooting JOE MAGLIOCCO and putting a knife to JOE BONANNOs throat saying HARLEM is theres now .…
A similar creative/historical atrocity was made with the Bumpy Johnson story back in the 1997 film Hoodlum. Writer Chris Brancato is the common denominator in both.
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Wiseguy wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:23 am
JeremyTheJew wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:03 pm Anyone watch GODFATHER OF HARLEM ?

The bumpy Johnson show?? It's pretty much like the Rizzuto show they did where they just completely make events up to the point where it's so fake that it's not fun.

I don't understand why they even would ruin GOOD stories ...

They got chin and bumpy Johnson shooting JOE MAGLIOCCO and putting a knife to JOE BONANNOs throat saying HARLEM is theres now .…
A similar creative/historical atrocity was made with the Bumpy Johnson story back in the 1997 film Hoodlum. Writer Chris Brancato is the common denominator in both.
Ya at least its not like this tho - like hoodlum can be said LOSELY based on true events

This can't even be said for this
Like how roemer has dutch Schultz in shoot outs in LV - same type of shit. and the real stories are better
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trafficante wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:33 pm What kind of name is "Aladena." I've literally never seen this name anywhere other than Jimmy Fratianno's birth name. Does anyone know where this name even originates? I've always wondered this.
“Aladena” is not an Italian given name, it was a distortion as often happened with Italian given and surnames in the US in the late 19th/early 20th century.

Jimmy Fratianno was born Adelino Fratianni in 1913 in the comune of Ripalimolisani, in the province of Campobasso, Molise (the region of Molise didn’t yet exist as a political entity; at the time Molise was still part of the old Abruzzi region). He arrived in the US in 1914 as an infant with his mother, Maria Concetta Trivisonno, bound for Cleveland’s Eastside Little Italy, where father Antonio Carmine Fratianni had arrived the prior year (almost all of the immigrants from Ripalimolisani in the US settled in Cleveland).
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Anybody knows what's Sonny Franzese's real first name? He is listed as John, but If he was born in Italy, it's unlikely he would have been given an English name. Could it be Giovanni maybe (just a guess)?
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Dwalin2014 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:11 am Anybody knows what's Sonny Franzese's real first name? He is listed as John, but If he was born in Italy, it's unlikely he would have been given an English name. Could it be Giovanni maybe (just a guess)?
Giovanni and John are just versions of the same name.

Sonny Franzese was born Giovanni Francese, in his mother, Maria Romano’s hometown of Saviano (just north of Naples in the Nola district of the old Terra di Lavoro province of Campania; Saviano is next to Scisciano, where the Ebolis were from, and Marigliano, Ritchie Boiardo’s hometown). His father was, of course, Carmine Salvatore “The Lion” Francese, a presumed Camorrista from the neighboring commune of Palma Campania
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I'm not sure where to put this post so mods feel free to redirect me.

My wife started working in the Royal library in Stockholm so I have the opportunity to borrow a bunch of books.

I would like some opinions and recommendations regarding these books (some of the titles are in swedish but I'll write names of the authors)

Maffia- Jo Durden Smith

Maffia export - Francesco Forgione

Mafia republik - John Dickie

Sicilian Mafia - Diego Gambetta

Secrets of life and death - Renate Siebert

Men of respect - Raimondo Catanzaro

The first family - Mike Dash

Mafia world- Maud Webster

Midnight in Sicily - Peter Robb
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Proletarian187 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 1:39 pm I'm not sure where to put this post so mods feel free to redirect me.
The Book Lounge, go to board index and scroll down it's towards the bottom.

Mafia Republic by John Dickie is excellent, I've also read The First Family by Mike Dash but can't remember to much about it.
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Proletarian187 wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2024 1:39 pm I'm not sure where to put this post so mods feel free to redirect me.

My wife started working in the Royal library in Stockholm so I have the opportunity to borrow a bunch of books.

I would like some opinions and recommendations regarding these books (some of the titles are in swedish but I'll write names of the authors)

Maffia- Jo Durden Smith

Maffia export - Francesco Forgione

Mafia republik - John Dickie

Sicilian Mafia - Diego Gambetta

Secrets of life and death - Renate Siebert

Men of respect - Raimondo Catanzaro

The first family - Mike Dash

Mafia world- Maud Webster

Midnight in Sicily - Peter Robb
Most are decent. The ones by Gambetta, Catanzaro, Dash, Forgione, Dickie, and Siebert are excellent. I would skip the ones by Smith and Webster.
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Thanks guys. That should keep me busy for a while.
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Proletarian187 wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:02 am Thanks guys. That should keep me busy for a while.
I did not know you had connection to Sweden and Stockholm. Good to see a fellow Swede on these boards.
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Detsamma!

B and PolackTony actually spoke very well of you when I signed up so I knew there was at least two of us.
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Proletarian187 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:48 am Detsamma!

B and PolackTony actually spoke very well of you when I signed up so I knew there was at least two of us.
I am humbled. Those guys are brothers from another mother.
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